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Bill: Education (Testing) Amendment Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Judicial Union Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2613
Description[?]:
| An act to institute standardised testing. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change National Curriculum
Old value:: invalid choice
Current: There is a National Curriculum which all government schools are obliged to follow; non-government schools are partially exempt.
Proposed: invalid choice
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 05:43:20, July 26, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Education (Testing) Amendment Act |
| Message | Standardised testing is common across all areas of society. If you apply for a job at any number of large companies, you will be put through a battery of tests. Universities use them for testing their undergraduate students. Indeed, by not preparing students for standardised tests, we are doing them a disservice. A student should not be allowed to pass a subject by being "creative". |
| Date | 05:49:29, July 26, 2008 CET | From | Hello Kitty Party | To | Debating the Education (Testing) Amendment Act |
| Message | This we will oppose. Standardized testing proves absolutely nothing. |
| Date | 05:56:47, July 26, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Education (Testing) Amendment Act |
| Message | Well, yes it does. It proves a person knows the things that are tested... |
| Date | 05:57:38, July 26, 2008 CET | From | Hello Kitty Party | To | Debating the Education (Testing) Amendment Act |
| Message | No it does not. I know of many people who are very successful who do not do well on SAT. |
| Date | 05:58:45, July 26, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Education (Testing) Amendment Act |
| Message | Then they simply didn't try hard enough. |
| Date | 06:00:29, July 26, 2008 CET | From | Hello Kitty Party | To | Debating the Education (Testing) Amendment Act |
| Message | I just proved that tests mean nothing and you agreed. g'day mate. |
| Date | 06:02:35, July 26, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Education (Testing) Amendment Act |
| Message | Ok, for one, "proof by example" is not a proof at all, it is a grave logical error that would get you hanged in certain places. Tests prove a person's knowledge. If a person doesn't know things, they are not going to do well at a test of that knowledge. A person might have the ability to know things, but if they haven't tried, ie they haven't put in the effort to learn, then they're still not going to do well. |
| Date | 06:06:18, July 26, 2008 CET | From | Hello Kitty Party | To | Debating the Education (Testing) Amendment Act |
| Message | Actually in this case, it is proof. My fiance and I both did not do well on the SATs and he graduated with a duel degree and I am nearly done with my education degree. That is two examples that shows that the SATs mean nothing to a person's ability to success. |
| Date | 06:09:03, July 26, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Education (Testing) Amendment Act |
| Message | Perhaps you two should have tried harder in school then. Your downfall was probably English. |
| Date | 06:14:30, July 26, 2008 CET | From | Hello Kitty Party | To | Debating the Education (Testing) Amendment Act |
| Message | Actually it was not English. |
| Date | 14:28:25, July 26, 2008 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Education (Testing) Amendment Act |
| Message | He he. Judicial Union getting schooled by someone who is an educator and knows about testing. |
| Date | 14:45:39, July 26, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Education (Testing) Amendment Act |
| Message | Standardised testing works, that's pretty much all there is to it. |
| Date | 15:03:48, July 26, 2008 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Education (Testing) Amendment Act |
| Message | Apparently not considering what has already been posted. |
| Date | 15:04:27, July 26, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Education (Testing) Amendment Act |
| Message | That some people didn't do well in them because they didn't try hard enough? That'll happen. |
| Date | 15:14:28, July 26, 2008 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Education (Testing) Amendment Act |
| Message | Who says that they did not try hard enough? Hello Kitty is right. You should have gone to clown school. |
| Date | 15:40:18, July 26, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Education (Testing) Amendment Act |
| Message | Anybody can pass a standardised test if they know the information. |
| Date | 16:40:04, July 26, 2008 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Education (Testing) Amendment Act |
| Message | It is no use arguing. You are so hung up on tests that you cannot see the harm that it causes. I can pull out some major examples of why testing is bad but they are from the real world and of little use here. |
| Date | 13:55:10, July 28, 2008 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Education (Testing) Amendment Act |
| Message | Well this is going to be defeated overwhelmingly. |
| Date | 13:56:47, July 28, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Education (Testing) Amendment Act |
| Message | Most of our non-budgetary bills are. That is why we at the JUP rejoice any time one of bills does pass, for it is quite the unusual event. |
| Date | 15:00:47, July 28, 2008 CET | From | Hello Kitty Party | To | Debating the Education (Testing) Amendment Act |
| Message | The way you go at it is the reason why your bills get defeated. That and the subject matter. |
| Date | 23:40:04, July 28, 2008 CET | From | Hello Kitty Party | To | Debating the Education (Testing) Amendment Act |
| Message | apparently all but the Judicial Union Party support educational testing as a means to move on. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 162 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 283 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 55 |
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