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Bill: Sports Clubs Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Traditional Conservative Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: October 2614

Description[?]:

ridiculous.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date02:24:41, July 31, 2008 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Sports Clubs Act
MessageSo - what we really want is to increase the number of Likatonians that are not healthy?

Date02:26:58, July 31, 2008 CET
FromTraditional Conservative Party
ToDebating the Sports Clubs Act
MessageYou would have to explain that, I don't usually understand random sentences that have nothing to do with my proposal.

Date02:31:41, July 31, 2008 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Sports Clubs Act
MessageInnocente Immeressen issued the following response:

"If only private sports clubs are available - then the free access to exercise facilities, nutrition expertise, and health counselling that Likatonians have long had access to, goes out the window.

Replaced by exercise facilities for those who can afford them, nutrition expertise for those who pay, and health counselling for the middle classes.

Making exercise a luxury commodity can only harm the overall health of Likatonians. Especially the poor - who appear to be the favourite victims in this political game."

Date04:46:46, July 31, 2008 CET
FromTraditional Conservative Party
ToDebating the Sports Clubs Act
MessageIf someone who plays a particular sport wants to stay healthy and fit for that sport, they shoudn't rely on being provided fancy exercise equipment and expensive health counselling. If they really care about the sport that much, they will try to become as good as they can at it themselves. Not from other people or facilities being provided for them. And secondly, this would actually cause more people to become lazy, and without determination. Because they already have the stuff that they should normally have to work for. And they take it for granted, and would rarely use it. You have everything completely backwards, and I have no idea why you think that way.

Ron Smith, Leader of the TCP

Date05:32:20, July 31, 2008 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Sports Clubs Act
Message"People that are keen on a sport are not the only people that need to be fit. Easy and (especially) casual access to sports and fitness facilities makes it easy for people to attain and maintain reasonable fitness. Most people simply won't pay out for dedicated sports equipment, if the burden is purely upon them.

And no one said anything about 'fancy' or 'expensive' - just basic access to equipment and expert advice... both of which would be lost to them under this proposal.

As for the idea of buying exercise equipment, versus taking facilities for granted - that's not how it works. Most people - if they don't have access to facilities where they can use sports and fitness equipment... simply don't use it, and that means they don't buy it, either."

--Innocente Immeressen

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Total Seats: 309

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Total Seats: 257


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