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Bill: Operation of the State Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Christian Reform Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2616
Description[?]:
| Large parties can put forward a cabinet, and the Head of Government is also the Head of State. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The constitutional right and responsibility to propose a cabinet to the legislature.
Old value:: Only the Head of State can propose a cabinet coalition.
Current: Each party can propose a cabinet coalition.
Proposed: Only the largest party can propose a cabinet.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Structure of the executive branch.
Old value:: The Head of State and Head of Government are two separate officials.
Current: The Head of State is hereditary and symbolic; the Head of Government chairs the cabinet.
Proposed: The Head of State is also Head of Government.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:00:32, August 01, 2008 CET | From | The Right Wing Opposition | To | Debating the Operation of the State Bill |
| Message | why must you reverse everything we've done before you? |
| Date | 19:28:47, August 01, 2008 CET | From | Christian Reform Party | To | Debating the Operation of the State Bill |
| Message | It's imperative that all parties should have their own stance on how the country should be run. We think that it is a cod having a separation in Head of State and Head of Government. |
| Date | 23:09:43, August 01, 2008 CET | From | The Right Wing Opposition | To | Debating the Operation of the State Bill |
| Message | Well we've been able to make the nation work without you and your attempts to revert our nation into a basic form of anarchy. With every party being aloud to create their own cabinet proposals, there will be many more arguments, within the nation, and whatwith the recent undergoings with Sekowo, we don't need anymore internal issues. Also having the HoS and the HoG being two different parties, it makes it fair for others, so there is not a feeling of dictatorship. I hope you can see this as a reason for my lack of support for this bill, and not as a chance for me to unfairly attack you in your attempts to glorify you and your party. Head of the SPR, Spider Pig II |
| Date | 00:21:56, August 02, 2008 CET | From | Christian Reform Party | To | Debating the Operation of the State Bill |
| Message | Of course I can't understand. 1) How would it be a dictatorship if the Head of State would be elected in democratic elections? 2) How is insisting a more streamlined Government (less costs to the Exchequer etc) returning a nation to anarchy? 3) If you read my proposal did I say all parties or just the largest? 4) How is this an attempt to glorify the Christian Reform Party? This is seriously what is best for the State? We don't wish to blow our own trumpet we want to be as close to our political partners as possible. |
| Date | 00:39:21, August 02, 2008 CET | From | The Right Wing Opposition | To | Debating the Operation of the State Bill |
| Message | Well I'm sorry you fail to see the meaning of my previous staments, and I respect your desicion to think that you are doing is correct in your eyes. However, I see things differently than you do, seeing as I have been around longer than you have, I have unfortunately had the chance to see how bills like this turn out, and trust me the result is not the one you think you are going to get. That said, if you have anything else to say to me, please private message me, as I do not want to disturb the other parties with this matter, until it has been resolved. Head of the SPR, Spider Pig II |
| Date | 00:42:22, August 02, 2008 CET | From | Christian Reform Party | To | Debating the Operation of the State Bill |
| Message | Is it Article 2 that you are having issue with? If so Article 1 can be considered at a later date while leaving Article 2 intact. |
| Date | 00:44:33, August 02, 2008 CET | From | The Right Wing Opposition | To | Debating the Operation of the State Bill |
| Message | I am sorry to say this sir, but you kind sir are an idiot. Please read over my first statement, and you will see I don't support this bill at all. I don't like the thought of any of it. |
| Date | 17:53:00, August 02, 2008 CET | From | Revolutionary Gathering of Beiteynu | To | Debating the Operation of the State Bill |
| Message | The political climate of Beiteynu doesn't allow for Article 1 to be feasible, and we will do not support for that reason. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 17 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 210 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 13 |
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| Random quote: "In politics, stupidity is not a handicap." - Napoleon Bonaparte |