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Bill: DSP.239.2616

Details

Submitted by[?]: 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō)

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: March 2617

Description[?]:

A move to protect our animal bretheren and the environment.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date23:16:30, August 04, 2008 CET
FromSekowan Independent Party
ToDebating the DSP.239.2616
MessageOOC: As an aside, has anyone here read "Speaker for the Dead" by Orson Scott Card? His separation of "levels of strangers" in the storytelling is actually quite an amazing system, and one I've come to really appreciate. I suggest picking up that book anyway, but I think that the system they use is a good one. Let me break it down.

The first level of "strangers" is one from one's own home planet.

The second level of "strangers" are one's own species.

The third level of "strangers" are called "ramen", and are not human though can be communicated with and they can understand one another. The largest focus of the book is on what this, specifically, means to the three races who come to live together.

The fourth level, and my point here, are called "varlese" I believe. They are unreasonable creatures, who care only for their own will and survival. With them, war is inevitable.

So, my point? If there is a wolf at my door, growling and lashing out at my family, I will have no hesitation in my heart to kill the wolf before it attacks and does any damage. Anyone who would do otherwise would soon find themselves either in a hospital or a mortuary...

Killing of animals, in sport, I would make that illegal sure. For food? No, if we're going to use the animals then it's back to survival of the fittest and it's how the world has grown to exist. Killing in self defense should NEVER be a questionable activity...

Date23:52:19, August 04, 2008 CET
From帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō)
ToDebating the DSP.239.2616
MessageOOC:
Nope, never read it, actually I refuse to read anything of his since he openly supports making homosexuality illegal again.

Anyways, if I wanted this to pass I'd have split it up and done RP stuff, it's just positioning.

Date01:20:12, August 05, 2008 CET
FromRevolutionary State Socialist Party
ToDebating the DSP.239.2616
MessageOOC: I've read pretty much all of his stuff...

Date06:19:33, August 05, 2008 CET
FromNormand Pluralist Party
ToDebating the DSP.239.2616
Message[[I've read only Ender's Game.

For Iori: If I only read/watched stuff which agreed with my particular political views, I'd be reading and watching very little. I just watched Sharkwater the other day - a documentary I'd recommend.

The only thing I WONT read (apart from trash, some of which I'll even read) is explicitly partisan political texts - Ann Coulter, Al Franken, etc. If I want to decrease my IQ, I'll turn on Seinfield. The exception to this is political classics, such as Mein Kampf. Literature with political/relosophical messages is also ok (and can be hard to avoid).]]

Date06:21:26, August 05, 2008 CET
From帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō)
ToDebating the DSP.239.2616
MessageOOC:
I don't not read things I disagree with, I just don't like the guy is all.
I mean I watch Glenn Beck and he's on the political right on stuff, but I still like him.

Date15:42:37, August 05, 2008 CET
FromRevolutionary State Socialist Party
ToDebating the DSP.239.2616
MessageOOC: Well, Ender's game is his best, his newests books I don't like as much, though its been getting better. His book Empire, about a near future US Civil War, while totaly rediculous, was ammusing atleast.

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