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Bill: Budget proposal of October 2616

Details

Submitted by[?]: Judicial Union Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill proposes to change the allocation of funds in the budget. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.

Voting deadline: November 2617

Description[?]:

The Judicial Union Party propose to adjust the government's spending budget to better address the economic and social situation of the United Tribes of Tukarali.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date10:46:19, August 05, 2008 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Budget proposal of October 2616
MessageWe here in Tukarali have a strong government, who spends quite a lot of money. This is a good thing, however there is the chance that this spending can get out of hand, and money can be wasted. We in the JUP believe it is time for some fat to be trimmed so to speak. We therefore compared our spending as a percentage of GDP against all other nations in the world.

The following summarises why we chose cuts to be made in the areas we did:
Ministry: Current spending (world average)
MFA: 1.57% (0.22%)
MDef: 4.83% (3.2%)
MJus: 2.78% (0.71%)
MIT: 4.47% (0.97%)
MST: 2.65% (0.99%)

Now of course we are not other countries. Tukarali has unique circumstances, which is why we chose to leave the MET alone, even though it is funded much higher than the world average (indeed, our MET is one of the largest in the world). However, comparing our funding against other countries is useful for relative comparisons. We believe other parties here should agree.

Date13:40:29, August 05, 2008 CET
FromHello Kitty Party
ToDebating the Budget proposal of October 2616
MessageMoney is always wasted regardless of how much is being spent on something.

Date13:43:59, August 05, 2008 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Budget proposal of October 2616
MessageWe were suggesting that money is lost to unnecessary programmes, rather than through administration and inefficiencies. Reducing funding wouldn't affect the latter.

Date22:11:48, August 05, 2008 CET
FromHello Kitty Party
ToDebating the Budget proposal of October 2616
MessageStill having problems with understanding English I see. Who said anything about inefficiencies?

Date23:10:36, August 05, 2008 CET
FromGreenish Liberal Democratic Socialists
ToDebating the Budget proposal of October 2616
MessageNo, we should not cut back on Foreign Affairs, it's an important department. Neither does Justice or Science deserve cuts. Defense could use cut.. when did their budget get this high?

Date23:14:17, August 05, 2008 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Budget proposal of October 2616
MessageAll the departments are important, some are just relatively overfunded. Should we be spending more on science than on internal affairs and finance combined, for instance?

Date23:15:55, August 05, 2008 CET
FromLiberty Party
ToDebating the Budget proposal of October 2616
MessageWe agree with the GLDS.

Date23:24:52, August 05, 2008 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Budget proposal of October 2616
MessageNo, you disagree with the JUP, there is a difference. You disagree with us on principle.

We are currently spending too much, it is a drain on our economy. We need to make cuts somewhere.

Date23:40:34, August 05, 2008 CET
FromLiberty Party
ToDebating the Budget proposal of October 2616
Message"No, you disagree with the JUP, there is a difference. You disagree with us on principle."

You have proof of that or are you trying to sell something?

Date03:48:30, August 06, 2008 CET
FromHello Kitty Party
ToDebating the Budget proposal of October 2616
MessageHe's selling something and it has to be Amway products! LOL

Date03:58:18, August 06, 2008 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Budget proposal of October 2616
MessageLOL... No idea what you're talking about...

You complain about high taxes, and yet you complain when we cut spending in order to reduce taxes. You can't have it both ways, Liberty Kitty Party.

Date05:14:49, August 06, 2008 CET
FromHello Kitty Party
ToDebating the Budget proposal of October 2616
MessageFor starters, which party are you talking to? Liberty or me?

Date06:23:37, August 06, 2008 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Budget proposal of October 2616
MessageBoth, hence the portmanteau name.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
   

Total Seats: 270

no
  

Total Seats: 156

abstain
  

Total Seats: 74


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