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Bill: Anti-Welfare Bill I
Details
Submitted by[?]: al-Hizb at-Tukarali al-Qawmi al-Ijtima'i
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2619
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding child benefit.
Old value:: The state guarantees child benefit to families classified as low-income or poor.
Current: The state guarantees child benefit to families classified as low-income or poor.
Proposed: The state does not provide child benefit.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Current: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government. However, the provision of this is not to exceed a certian period of time.
Proposed: There shall be no direct cash payments to individuals to guarantee a minimum income.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Current: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Proposed: The state does not operate a pension system. Individuals must save up for retirement on their own.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The government policy regarding housing.
Old value:: The state provides public housing to low-income families.
Current: The state provides public housing to low-income families.
Proposed: The state owns and maintains all housing.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 03:55:26, August 08, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Anti-Welfare Bill I |
| Message | Yes, who cares about whether kids can eat. |
| Date | 09:22:19, August 08, 2008 CET | From | al-Hizb at-Tukarali al-Qawmi al-Ijtima'i | To | Debating the Anti-Welfare Bill I |
| Message | Their parents should work hard to provide for them like the rest of us do. Our government should not put a crutch on its own people. What kind of message is this sending the kids? Don't work, make money? No thanks. We should be in the business of producing productive members of society, not freeloaders. |
| Date | 09:34:08, August 08, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Anti-Welfare Bill I |
| Message | And what of the people that cannot feed their children through legitimate means, and would not be given any help from the government? They'll turn to crime. We'll have people in the streets unable to put a roof over their head; we'll have the elderly left homeless because they are physically unable to work; we'll have children not being fed or clothed. Is this the kind of society you want to live in? |
| Date | 20:04:54, August 08, 2008 CET | From | al-Hizb at-Tukarali al-Qawmi al-Ijtima'i | To | Debating the Anti-Welfare Bill I |
| Message | If we had the strong economy that this nation deserves, if business and industry were loosened from the grip of this psuedo-communism then maybe there would always be legitimate means to provide for one's family. There are no excuses for pure ineptitude. |
| Date | 02:04:50, August 09, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Anti-Welfare Bill I |
| Message | We do have a strong economy, but even some people can be left behind through no fault of their own. That is why we have the state providing a safety net. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 293 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 207 |
| Random fact: "Treaty-locking", or ratifiying treaties that completely or nearly completely forbid any proposals to change laws, is not allowed. Amongst other possible sanctions, Moderation reserves the discretion to delete treaties and/or subject parties to a seat reset if this is necessary in order to reverse a treaty-lock situation. |
| Random quote: "It is not titles that honor men, but men that honor titles." - Niccolo Machiavelli |