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Bill: Citizenship (Extradition) Abolition Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Judicial Union Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2620
Description[?]:
| An act to abolish extradition. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The terms of extradition.
Old value:: Extradition to nations with capital punishment or with cruel or inhumane treatment of suspects and convicts is not allowed.
Current: Extradition to nations with capital punishment or with cruel or inhumane treatment of suspects and convicts is not allowed.
Proposed: The law bars the government from extraditing anyone who is a citizen of the state.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 04:49:04, August 10, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Citizenship (Extradition) Abolition Act |
| Message | Our citizens take Tukarali law with them, wherever they are in the world. They must be tried before a Tukarali court for any transgressions that occur, and must be punished by Tukarali authorities. That is part of the citizenship agreement, that we protect our citizens from foreign powers, but they are subject to our rules. |
| Date | 10:43:36, August 10, 2008 CET | From | Greenish Liberal Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the Citizenship (Extradition) Abolition Act |
| Message | Definately opposed. I agree we should (diplomatically, judicially, or maybe even financially if needed) support Tukuralian citizens accused of a crime abroad, but law applies to territory: If you're in Al'Badara you have to keep to Al'Badaran laws, if you're in Vanuku you have to obbey Vanukun law. You cannot drive 130km/hr in a country where only 100km/h is allowed "because we're allowed to at home". You have to adapt. That's logical. We expect foreigners coming to Tukarali to obbey our laws as well. Other countries have different laws, some things that are legal here might not be there (or vice versa), which makes a Tukuralian court could not punish them because it's legal here, they have nothing to base their judgement on (Tukuralian courts only recognise the authority of Tukuralian law, our judges cannot possibly know all law books from each and every nation), nor what the punishment should be. |
| Date | 11:03:05, August 10, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Citizenship (Extradition) Abolition Act |
| Message | It is one thing to be tried when they have not returned, but quite another for Tukarali to send a citizen overseas after they have reached our borders. As long as they are within Tukarali, they should be allowed to stay here. |
| Date | 14:01:43, August 10, 2008 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Citizenship (Extradition) Abolition Act |
| Message | Hell no. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 156 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 344 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Particracy has been running since 2005. Dorvik was Particracy's first nation, the Dorvik Social Democrats the first party and the International Greens the first Party Organisation. |
| Random quote: "[In the West] unpopular ideas can be silenced, and inconvenient facts kept dark, without any need for an official ban." - George Orwell |