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Bill: Throne Agenda: Freedom for Likatonia
Details
Submitted by[?]: Commonwealth Workers Army
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2623
Description[?]:
| "The Throne of Immeressen is honoured to present these pearls of wisdom dripping from His divine lips. Although, there is a possibility not ALL of that was wisdom pearls... some of it could have been doughnut. Look upon freedom, and despair, Likatonia. Immeressen shows you your demons, in His infinite Mercy. Love Him for it." |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the legality of abortions
Old value:: Abortion is allowed during the first trimester.
Current: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters.
Proposed: Abortion is allowed during the entire course of the pregnancy.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning adoption.
Old value:: Adoption is strictly regulated by the government. Only by passing several tests and by following an intensive program applicants can adopt children.
Current: Regulation is used to screen out only those with a previous history of child abuse.
Proposed: Adoption is not regulated.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to adultery.
Old value:: There is no explicit government policy on adultery.
Current: There is no explicit government policy on adultery.
Proposed: Adultery is legal.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding bestiality (performing sexual acts with animals).
Old value:: Bestiality is illegal.
Current: Bestiality is illegal.
Proposed: Bestiality is only legal if it causes no damage to the animals concerned.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change National policy regarding the desecration of the national flag.
Old value:: The national flag may not be desecrated or dishonoured.
Current: The national flag may not be desecrated or dishonoured.
Proposed: There are no regulations regarding the desecration or use of the national flag.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change
The government's policy regarding foreign marriages.
Old value:: Only foreign marriages that comply with domestic policy regarding marriage are recognised.
Current: Only foreign marriages that comply with domestic policy regarding marriage are recognised.
Proposed: All foreign marriages are recognised, regardless of domestic policy regarding marriage.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy on public nudity.
Old value:: Public nudity is illegal and prosecuted as a civil offence.
Current: Public nudity is illegal, but private nudist colonies and beaches are permitted.
Proposed: There are no laws with regards to public nudity, it is allowed.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to polygamy.
Old value:: The government does not recognise polygamous relationships and prosecute those who pursue a polygamous lifestyle.
Current: There is no explicit government policy on polygamy.
Proposed: Polygamous marriages are accorded equal recognition to monogamous marriages.
Article 9
Proposal[?] to change The distribution, purchasing and possession of material depicting pornographic acts.
Old value:: Pornography depicting consenting adults is legal for adults.
Current: Pornography depicting consenting adults is legal for adults.
Proposed: All forms of pornography are legal for everyone.
Article 10
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to the production of pornography.
Old value:: The production of pornography is legal, but regulated.
Current: The production of pornography is treated as any other business.
Proposed: The production of pornography is treated as any other business.
Article 11
Proposal[?] to change Displays of public affection and obscenity laws.
Old value:: Sexual intercourse is illegal in public.
Current: Sexual intercourse is illegal in public.
Proposed: There are no laws regarding obscene public acts.
Article 12
Proposal[?] to change The recreational drug policy.
Old value:: All naturally occurring drugs are legal.
Current: There are no laws regulating what citizens can put into their bodies.
Proposed: There are no laws regulating what citizens can put into their bodies.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:40:56, August 15, 2008 CET | From | Berosian Party | To | Debating the Throne Agenda: Freedom for Likatonia |
| Message | We are EXTREMELY close on this bill. While we agree with the majority of it, there are a few articles we would like to see removed. We will have to think about this. |
| Date | 00:37:49, August 16, 2008 CET | From | Permissive Social Union | To | Debating the Throne Agenda: Freedom for Likatonia |
| Message | The LFF of course has no such hesitation id deciding the way to vote. |
| Date | 02:54:05, August 16, 2008 CET | From | Red Tory Party | To | Debating the Throne Agenda: Freedom for Likatonia |
| Message | Absolutely horrid. From the first article down we shook our heads in absolute disgust. Abortions through the entirety of a pregnancy?! That is anarchy! Why is it okay to murder a baby 10 minutes before birth but not 3 second after? HYPOCRISY. |
| Date | 05:19:38, August 16, 2008 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Throne Agenda: Freedom for Likatonia |
| Message | "There is no separate law regarding post-birth abortion. As such, our responses have to deal only with pre-birth. If the Red Tories are so keen on post-birth abortions, we are willing to discuss it in a resolution. But, that's one article. We notice the Red Tories are willing to vote against 11 other freedom commitments, just to make their point. We wonder how the voters will see that." --Avar Akkad Avara |
| Date | 07:41:03, August 16, 2008 CET | From | Red Tory Party | To | Debating the Throne Agenda: Freedom for Likatonia |
| Message | We said from the first article down. Maybe the ToI should pay attention to the responses of the other parties before making any of their own. |
| Date | 07:42:30, August 16, 2008 CET | From | Red Tory Party | To | Debating the Throne Agenda: Freedom for Likatonia |
| Message | Although we agree with article 11. |
| Date | 11:03:59, August 16, 2008 CET | From |  Likaton Coalition of the Willing | To | Debating the Throne Agenda: Freedom for Likatonia |
| Message | We can support. Many articles go a little too far, but from where they start, that's still an improvement. |
| Date | 18:28:12, August 16, 2008 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Throne Agenda: Freedom for Likatonia |
| Message | "Before the Red Tories get too excited about our responses, perhaps they should look to their own. The Red Tories objected to the bill, but the only article they targetted for specific discussion, was the abortion one. As such, we responded specifically to that, and pointed out the hypocrisy of voting AGAINST a freedom bill (even if you don't like the abortion clause), after the things the Interloper Regime ahs said about US"." |
| Date | 22:55:41, August 16, 2008 CET | From | Red Tory Party | To | Debating the Throne Agenda: Freedom for Likatonia |
| Message | Freedom?? This is ANARCHY. What kind of communist are you? OOC: My comment earlier was written on a PSP... Didn't exactly want to write out a paragraph with it. |
| Date | 23:38:05, August 16, 2008 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Throne Agenda: Freedom for Likatonia |
| Message | OOC: No problem. :-) IC: "As we have always said, we are pro-SOCIAL liberty, even if we see need to regulate government, businesses and industry. We are consistently twitted for our alleged attacks on freedom - well, THIS is what 'freedom' looks like." --Avar Akkad Avara |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 286 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 291 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 89 |
| Random fact: It is the collective responsibility of the players in a nation to ensure all currently binding RP laws are clearly outlined in an OOC reference bill in the "Bills under debate" section of the nation page. Confusion should not be created by displaying only some of the current RP laws or displaying RP laws which are no longer current. |
| Random quote: "We must show that liberty is not merely one particular value but that it is the source and condition of most moral values. What a free society offers to the individual is much more than what he would be able to do if only he were free. We can therefore not fully appreciate the value of freedom until we know how a society of free men as a whole differs from one in which unfreedom prevails." - Friedrich August Hayek |