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Bill: Military Reform Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Socialist League for a new society

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: March 2630

Description[?]:

Let's ban chemical and biological weapons

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date17:43:12, August 30, 2008 CET
FromKazari Militarist Movement
ToDebating the Military Reform Act
MessageRutania needs an intelligence agency for counter-espionage, intelligence operations and radar, sonar and geospatial mapping operations.

However, some within our organization agree with your proposals on chemical and biological warfare but the majority of people in the Confucian league, especially me, as a former high officer believe that the production and use of chemical and biological weapons should be restricted to be used only when sorely needed on a tactical level.

- Andrew Lin, former Brigadier General of the Sinasian People's National Liberation Army, now instructor of the Sun Tzu and Guan Yu academy of Military sciences and Officer training and part-time Kung Fu instructor at the Bruce Lee school of fighting.

Date18:12:58, August 30, 2008 CET
FromRutanian Democratic Forum
ToDebating the Military Reform Act
Message"Rutania needs an intelligence agency, well said by Mr Lin, because we are in the very hostile environment. Our neighbours cannot be trusted. Every time we held a foreign affairs department, RDF tried to make some friendly arrangements with neighbouring countries, but this failed in most cases. So, we need an intelligence.

As for weapons, RDF is a pacifist party, and in principle we agree. Although, by the rules of political pragma and realpolitik, we cannot support the proposal, but given our current position, we could also vote for.

But, we cannot support the proposal as a whole, because of above mentioned reasons."

William Paulsen, MNC
RDF Secretary General

Date20:06:33, August 30, 2008 CET
FromHumanist Alliance
ToDebating the Military Reform Act
MessageHow can the RDF say they are a pacifist party after proposing the military service act, trying to force men and women into compulsary military service? Article 3 kills this bill.

Date20:11:43, August 30, 2008 CET
FromRutanian Democratic Forum
ToDebating the Military Reform Act
Message"Because we are aware that in certain situatiions pacifism does not help. We are aware of "power politics", not "politics of ideals". We do not support grand investments into defence and deadly weapons, we only want our army to be fit for defence. And if some country attacks, should the citizens stand aside? we don't think so."

William Paulsen, MNC
RDF Secretary General

Date13:03:06, August 31, 2008 CET
FromImperium Party
ToDebating the Military Reform Act
MessageThe IP do not support all articles proposed by our colleagues the Socialist League, we need an intelligence agency, the reasons for are mentioned by the CL and the RDF.

We do support the use and development of chemical/biological weapons, but at the present time most parties are against the idea to use these sought of weapons so in the end we have to follow suit.

Percival van Rustenburg
Imperium Party Leader

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
 

Total Seats: 53

no
      

Total Seats: 546

abstain
 

Total Seats: 0


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