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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of May 2630

Details

Submitted by[?]: Imperium Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.

Voting deadline: January 2631

Description[?]:

Proposing a Cabinet

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date12:46:50, September 01, 2008 CET
FromImperium Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2630
MessageBecause absolutely nothing has been done since August 2629 (the Beluzian Government is alerted and have increased their defence budget 10x as much as us). The Imperium Party want to resign Jason Saynol as Minister of Defence and Arnold Zagetti as Minister of Foreign Affairs.

The Minister of Foreign Affairs of Beluzia, Sir Robert Barbossa, has privately contacted the Imperium Party, specifically Jason Saynol who allocated the troop deployment. I have stated that none of our members are part of the cabinet, and I explained the reasons why the deployment was made and I also cleared up the situation of "dont insult Beluzians" situations - which was stated in the Socialist League and Rutanian Democratic Forum's comments. They percieved our deployment as hostile, as if we are going to raid their border.

The Imperium Party and Beluzian Nationalist Pirate Party (currently the largest party in Beluzia) have established good contact and friendly talk.

If you want this matter to be soughted out vote yes, I'll bring this situation to a finish, and of course once this situation is over Mr Saynol and Mr Zagetti will resign.

Percival van Rustenburg
Imperium Party Leader

Date15:20:46, September 01, 2008 CET
FromRutanian Democratic Forum
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2630
Message"Mr Speaker, we vote against this proposal. Why? We would support Imperium Party's ministers to deal with this situation, but we already have our government. We demand diplomatic solution, Beluzia is our neighbour country and our diplomatic relations ought to be good. Therefore, we demand an action from Tom Duke, Minister of Foreign Affairs from Humanist Alliance and Keaton Jenner, Minister of Defence from New Liberal Party. We also want to ask Mrs Chancellor General Melissa Hockey from New Liberal Party what actions are and are planned to be taken.

We believe that one of the reasons for this crisis was also incompetency of some key members of last government, particularly Chancellor General Gregory Heffernan from Humanist Alliance. Now, we should have more competent government. Even the Conservatives have supported current government. So, ladies and gentlemen, if you are competent, then solve this situation.
If you're not competent, then please resign."

Michael Ford, MNC
President of RDF

Date15:23:34, September 01, 2008 CET
FromRutanian Democratic Forum
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2630
Message"Mr Rustenburg, if you have established friendly relations with Beluzian Nationalist Pirate Party, why do they seek troop deployment in front of Beluzian parliament, and why do they obviously increase tensions?"

M.Ford

Date18:00:50, September 01, 2008 CET
FromSocialist League for a new society
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2630
Messagewe oppose

Date18:50:04, September 01, 2008 CET
FromImperium Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2630
MessageMyself and Sir Robert Barbossa of the Beluzian Nationalist Pirate Party have established friendly relations with each other, it is not directly related to Rutania and Beluzia Hostility, I have recieved his terms of what the situation is, and if we do not call off the troops by July, further action will be taken by the government of Beluzia.

I've sent a message to the minister not to make the deadline to July. (ooc: in account of our time zone differences)

And Mr Ford, with respect the current cabinet has not dealt with this situation and they have been given enough time to try and sought this.

Percival van Rustenburg
Imperium Party Leader

Date20:03:20, September 01, 2008 CET
FromRutanian Democratic Forum
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2630
Message"Mr Barbossa should be aware of one thing: it's not us who make threats. Rutania has responded to threat and proposal from Beluzia, because some of their political groups and parties openly advocate the invasion to Rutania. So, our deployment of troops is a matter of our defence and our national security. We don't want to attack them.
Therefore, RDF does not support calling off the additional troops from Delvar. We strongly oppose that actions and would like to clear up things: Beluzian groups are threatening Rutania, not otherwise.

Current government has done nothing to clear this situation. RDF supports IP's efforts to clear the situation, but we will not vote for the government which included Humanist Alliance and New Liberal Party."

Michael Ford, MNC
President of RDF

Date10:07:31, September 02, 2008 CET
FromFederal Rutanian Libertarian Union
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2630
Message"The government does not have to clear everything with the opposition especially when it is thought that we may have spies among us. All information is on a need to know basis and that is all"

Date10:57:05, September 02, 2008 CET
FromRutanian Democratic Forum
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2630
Message"You don't have to clear anything with opposition, you have to clear things with Beluzia and Bailon!"

Michael Ford

Date14:07:39, September 02, 2008 CET
FromConstitutional Monarchy Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2630
MessageWe suggest you start listening to the Imperium Party.... they seem to be the only people who would rather not fight a war with a nation with a far superior army. Also you may want to look at this:
http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=216189

We have many allies, and it would be wise to withdraw your troops.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 167

no
     

Total Seats: 432

abstain
 

Total Seats: 0


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