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Bill: Prison Reform Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: National Bolshevik Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2631
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Education in prisons.
Old value:: An education plan for prisoners is provided to improve rehabilitation.
Current: An education plan for prisoners is provided to improve rehabilitation.
Proposed: Prisoners are not given any form of education.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 04:35:22, September 03, 2008 CET | From | Sons of Liberty | To | Debating the Prison Reform Bill |
| Message | We are torn. We don't want to straight-up deny education to prisoners, we simply don't want to provide it as charity. Surely we could simply make a resolution perhaps to allow prisoners to be donated books or the likes so that they may on their own part educate themselves? We abstain for the moment that we may discuss such ideas. |
| Date | 04:41:23, September 03, 2008 CET | From | National Bolshevik Party | To | Debating the Prison Reform Bill |
| Message | Since there is no legislation against private charity we'd assume it's legal but we could pass something to allow it explicitly to ease the concerns of the SOL. This bill says "education plan", which to us implies government-run plans. |
| Date | 08:29:01, September 03, 2008 CET | From | Sons of Liberty | To | Debating the Prison Reform Bill |
| Message | We're certainly against the idea of a government plan, we just fear that the stated "are not given any form of education" explicitly denies the pursuit of education to prisoners. If perhaps we can make a resolution in the event of this passing to ensure it is still allowed, we will gladly favor this bill. |
| Date | 10:14:17, September 03, 2008 CET | From | Dranland First Party (CC) | To | Debating the Prison Reform Bill |
| Message | We can certainly support this. We generally do not believe in the myth of 'rehabilitation' - prisoners are not in prison to be reformed, they are in prison as a punishment of retribution, and to be incapacitated and removed from society so that they are no longer a risk to others. Most criminals simply cannot be 're-educated' or 'reformed' - to believe in such wishful-thinking is folly, and a waste of tax-funded resources. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 81 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 31 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 153 |
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