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Bill: DSP.276.2634
Details
Submitted by[?]: 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2634
Description[?]:
| We continue to fight against the anthropocentric allowance of murder. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government regulation of hunting.
Old value:: Hunting and fishing activities are restricted to designated areas and periods.
Current: Private hunting and fishing practices are banned.
Proposed: Private hunting and fishing practices are banned.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's stance on whaling.
Old value:: Local governments decide about whaling.
Current: Whaling is illegal.
Proposed: Whaling is illegal.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 02:20:18, September 09, 2008 CET | From |  帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the DSP.276.2634 |
| Message | Murder being the killing of any member of the vertibrata family not in self-defence. |
| Date | 03:12:47, September 09, 2008 CET | From | Sekowo Green Party | To | Debating the DSP.276.2634 |
| Message | The SGP disagree with article 2. Currently we allow commerical fishing. Is it ok for us to set the limit on how many fish we "murder" and not allow our citizens to partake in a recreational hobby? Assuming people fish within the designated areas and stick to the catch limits, we have no issues with the current policy. We however completely agree with article 1 and we would rather this bill was split up. |
| Date | 05:11:20, September 09, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the DSP.276.2634 |
| Message | CP feels neither article serves the people of Sekowo. Against. |
| Date | 05:20:16, September 09, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the DSP.276.2634 |
| Message | Fish are not vertebrates. |
| Date | 10:14:03, September 09, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the DSP.276.2634 |
| Message | ...the Socialists need to fire their biologists, as well. Vertebrata actually includes all fish (Osteichthyes, Placodermi, Chondrichtyes, Aconthodii, and Cephalaspidomorphi). To say that "fish are not vertebrates" is approximately the equivilent of stating that "birds are not vertebrates" or "trees are not plants". |
| Date | 13:52:04, September 09, 2008 CET | From | Sekowan Independent Party | To | Debating the DSP.276.2634 |
| Message | To play on the description... We continue to fight against the completely irrational viewpoint that humans are "murdering" another species when they are killed for food. By that same token, a wolf should be put to murder trial when it kills a rabbit. A lion should be put to trial when it kills a gazelle. A house cat should be put to trial when it kills a mouse. If the argument is that humans should be above the "murder" of other animals, and that we are somehow held to a higher standard, then we must act on this immediately. We must begin punishing those that murder others, every naturally born Sekowan animal must be held accountable for it's crimes! The SIP hopes that all the animals which, like humans, have a natural diet that includes meat; are capable of evolving rapidly enough that these new laws would not starve them. That would certainly cause a painful, inhumane, and excruciatingly slow death for a creature that is only trying to do as comes naturally to it: much like the hunters and fishers of Sekowo. In short? Strongly, Vehemently, and Always opposed to this sort of legislation. |
| Date | 22:50:25, September 09, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the DSP.276.2634 |
| Message | OOC: Gah, NPP's right, not what I emant, sorry I've been sort of out fo it the last week. What I meant is that they are'nt part of the group I'm talking about. IC: Wolves and Lions are not class 1 sentient beings, indeed they are not even in the three tiers of sentience therefore they are not capable of the level of thought required to understand killing is wrong. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 190 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 410 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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