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Bill: DSP.291.2642
Details
Submitted by[?]: 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2642
Description[?]:
| Article 1; Education is a right, not something people should have to pay for. Article 2; Free daycare facilitiesmust be available to ensure gender eqaulity by allowing women to not have to worry about their children. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Higher education tuition policy.
Old value:: The government subsidizes higher education tuition to a certain amount, the rest is covered by the individual students. This includes scholarship programs.
Current: The government fully subsidizes tuition.
Proposed: The government fully subsidizes tuition.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Pre-school education.
Old value:: The government leaves the pre-school education policy to local governments.
Current: The government maintains a system of free publically owned nurseries alongside heavily regulated private establishments.
Proposed: The government maintains a system of free publically owned nurseries alongside heavily regulated private establishments.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 02:53:36, September 25, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the DSP.291.2642 |
| Message | We find it terribly sexist that you would assume that only women would stay home to take care of children. |
| Date | 03:12:38, September 25, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the DSP.291.2642 |
| Message | Women are naturally more paternal, it's a fact of evolution, therefore, while it's not always the case, it's likely that it will be the women who chooses to take care of the child. Of course their is the matter of single women with children who are the only one who could as well. |
| Date | 03:18:18, September 25, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the DSP.291.2642 |
| Message | We find that it is very important that children have significant time with their parentschildren who do not see either of their parents often are more likely to become criminals. And, for the record, women are NOT naturally more paternal. Men are. That's why it's called "paternal" (from Latin "pater" [father]). |
| Date | 05:55:11, September 25, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the DSP.291.2642 |
| Message | Women, evolutionarily are, hence why women live longer. Men, evolutionarily are at best provider of food, at worst just a source of sperm. |
| Date | 06:51:48, September 25, 2008 CET | From |  Imperial Pluralism Party | To | Debating the DSP.291.2642 |
| Message | that's really a horribly subjective and simplistic interpretation of human evolution |
| Date | 14:06:51, September 25, 2008 CET | From | Sekowan Independent Party | To | Debating the DSP.291.2642 |
| Message | OOC: You're using correlational data to come to your conclusions about the evolutionary tendencies of men and women. Actual studies in psychology have shown that men and women are equally patient with certain tasks, which focused certain areas of the brain. Men, for instance, are much more spatially tuned (three dimensional images) while women are tuned to be able to recognize much more specific color variation. Oh, and also, my ex-wife and I have a five year old son who spends his time with both of us throughout the year. I haven't re-married (or even begun dating again). So, try not to focus on women when you're talking about children. As it turns out, some of us men want to be more than just "sperm donors", and if you think otherwise then I hope you can overcome whatever issues make you think men are cavemen. Some of us think, feel, and actually give a damn about people other than ourselves. Not saying you don't, but I know a few guys like that too. Doesn't mean we all are. I loved my ex-wife, I wasn't the one who left. To this day, and forever, I will love my son and do anything for him. Not just "provide food", but I'll make sure he is happy as well. His education, his emotional well being, and his physical health are ALL my primary concerns. That seriously is one of my real-life key issues, one of them that I get pretty heated over. Men aren't just walking sperm banks, even if it is popular these days to talk about how victimized women are and how horrible they've got it. How wonderful it must be to be a man! We've got to help the women! You know, being a man I learned something really quickly about our country's government in regards to women. When I walked into that court room, for the custody hearing, I was already a worthless piece of shit. I was guilty of anything she said. The judge looked at me with anger and fire in their eyes the minute I walked in. Yeah... if you've got single mothers, you should take the time to consider that you've also got single fathers. Women aren't the only ones who care. Some of them are even just "egg donors" too, you know. I know plenty of guys who take care of their kids full-time while the mother is off doing drugs, having wild sex parties, and deciding her kids aren't worth spending the time on. I'm going to stop now, I could just keep going all day. So frustrating... **fumes** IC: We believe that sexism and over-affirmative action is not the way to reach gender equality. We believe that providing benefits to one sex is gender inequality, regardless of which sex you are providing benefits for. |
| Date | 23:16:02, September 25, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the DSP.291.2642 |
| Message | OOC: I just like being blunt and simplistic sometimes since I have to be the opposite all the time.. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 281 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 319 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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