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Bill: Abolition of Statist Propaganda Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Anarchist-Communist League
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2120
Description[?]:
| We hereby resolve to pass the telecommunications industries entirely into the hands of the worker's soviets, ending the propaganda system presently maintained by the state, and to bring the library system closer to the people whilst maintaining current levels of funding. It is also resolved that the minister for Education and Culture be empowered to establish minimum quotas for the amount of educational, cultural, and news programming to be produced by media organisations. Local governments are required to provide a vast and comprehensive system of public libraries, reflecting the full range of political and social opinion. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Radio stations.
Old value:: The government subsidises a national radio station for educational and informational purposes; other private non-subsidised radio stations are allowed.
Current: All radio stations are private.
Proposed: All radio stations are private.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Television stations.
Old value:: The government subsidises a national TV station for educational and informational purposes; other private non-subsidised TV stations are allowed.
Current: All television media are private.
Proposed: All television media are private.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards the funding of libraries.
Old value:: The national government controls a vast and comprehensive system of public libraries.
Current: Books may only be obtained through private dealers.
Proposed: The national government provides local governments with funding to operate libraries.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 03:07:15, October 03, 2005 CET | From | Revival Party | To | Debating the Abolition of Statist Propaganda Act |
| Message | Whilst we agree with this Bill our hopes of seeing it passed by the socialists is little indeed. |
| Date | 04:27:44, October 03, 2005 CET | From | Anarchist-Communist League | To | Debating the Abolition of Statist Propaganda Act |
| Message | This is a thoroughly socialist bill. We would not agree with it being passed were the soviet system not in place, but with the soviet system in place it represents an increase in power for the workers. |
| Date | 05:06:49, October 03, 2005 CET | From | NeoSocialist Party | To | Debating the Abolition of Statist Propaganda Act |
| Message | What's the point of closing our radio and tv channel? We are not forcing anybody to look at them. You think it's propaganda? Change channel, since you have others which are completely independent. What about the educational,cultural and political tv shows that cannot fight the audience of more popular shows? Should we just pointlessly cripple our ways to express our culture? PLUS, as the writer of the previous law which established this TV and Radio Channels, let me state once more that the head of the channel cannot be a politician related to the government. Thus, where does this propaganda problem comes from? And what about Libraries? Are the Department councils private? No they are just as public as our Assembly. Therefore that would just increase "Propaganda" |
| Date | 05:13:48, October 03, 2005 CET | From | Anarchist-Communist League | To | Debating the Abolition of Statist Propaganda Act |
| Message | It does not matter if the head of the channel is a politican or not, they know which side their bread is buttered on... state funding ensures state propaganda. The libraries proposal is simply a sensible decentralisation. |
| Date | 13:03:33, October 03, 2005 CET | From | Tudeh Party of Quanzar | To | Debating the Abolition of Statist Propaganda Act |
| Message | What happens if the government needs to disseminate information quickly without going through other methods? There is one state-funded television channel and one state-funded radio station. The state does not have a monopoly over broadcasting and should never. But the state has the resources to ensure that at least one channel or station is availible throughout the whole country, whilst soviets may not be able to transmit nationwide. However, if we were to hand over all telecommunications to the WDC sector, then the only way the Tudehs would vote in favour is if quotas were established for the educational, cultural and political programming that could be lost otherwise. For example, I would be happy to legislate in favour of the creation of the Culture Channel, with programmes about art, music, literature and so on. I'd also be happy with an Educational Channel, showing educational programmes (OOC: much like the Open University in Britain) and a Political Channel, showing coverage from our Assembly, thought-provoking debate and so on. There should also be a News Channel, and a body that oversees programming and sets guidelines, etc. |
| Date | 16:23:52, October 03, 2005 CET | From | Anarchist-Communist League | To | Debating the Abolition of Statist Propaganda Act |
| Message | OOC: can we specify such things in the description without there being a game option for it? |
| Date | 19:03:39, October 03, 2005 CET | From | Tudeh Party of Quanzar | To | Debating the Abolition of Statist Propaganda Act |
| Message | Absolutely. If it's in the description, then as far as I'm concerned it's in the statute books. |
| Date | 19:19:24, October 03, 2005 CET | From | Anarchist-Communist League | To | Debating the Abolition of Statist Propaganda Act |
| Message | Amended to introduce quotas for certain types of programming. Is any further amendment needed to reach agreement on this issue? |
| Date | 20:07:11, October 03, 2005 CET | From | Tudeh Party of Quanzar | To | Debating the Abolition of Statist Propaganda Act |
| Message | Well, you could always add that local governments should provide "a vast and comprehensive system of public libraries" as the national government does. |
| Date | 20:35:29, October 03, 2005 CET | From | Tudeh Party of Quanzar | To | Debating the Abolition of Statist Propaganda Act |
| Message | Good work. |
| Date | 21:09:16, October 03, 2005 CET | From | Anti-Party Political Party | To | Debating the Abolition of Statist Propaganda Act |
| Message | If central government specifies which range of opinions each library should reflect, what's the point in devolving them in the first place? |
| Date | 23:32:54, October 03, 2005 CET | From | Anarchist-Communist League | To | Debating the Abolition of Statist Propaganda Act |
| Message | There's a lot of scope for localisation left there; local government simply should not be able to exclude viewpoints on a partisan basis. |
| Date | 04:05:36, October 04, 2005 CET | From | NeoSocialist Party | To | Debating the Abolition of Statist Propaganda Act |
| Message | I'm sorry I'll have to vote against again, there is no point in closing something to make the market freerer only to impose regulations next. Let the Soviets pursue what they economically think it's right and better without worrying about satisfying quotas. They will be free to say whatever they want, while this legislation wants to invade their position. |
| Date | 05:33:17, October 04, 2005 CET | From | Revival Party | To | Debating the Abolition of Statist Propaganda Act |
| Message | Articles 1 and 2 take away a good broadcasting system without replacing it; note the current system is not stopping other advertising based broadcasters. Article 3 is quite simply madness in terms of how we protect our nations growth and therefore we oppose this bill. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 178 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 223 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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