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Bill: Budget proposal of July 2644

Details

Submitted by[?]: The Liberal Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill proposes to change the allocation of funds in the budget. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.

Voting deadline: May 2645

Description[?]:

The The Liberal Party propose to adjust the government's spending budget to better address the economic and social situation of the United Republics of Lodamun.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date21:01:31, September 29, 2008 CET
FromThe Liberal Party
ToDebating the Budget proposal of July 2644
MessageThis budget proposal will be submitted to a vote after the next elections take place.

Date22:45:06, September 29, 2008 CET
FromUnited Republics Party
ToDebating the Budget proposal of July 2644
MessageDo these Liberal budgets ever pass? There is never any explanation on why these funds are needed other than more government spending is always needed. Frankly, I think most Senators strongly disagree with that notion and in an attempt to help the Liberals, failure to provide a rational for more spending does not help its cause. Especially when I believe we've moved to more private education and healthcare and face no looming military threats other than ones the Liberal party itself instigates.

Date00:03:54, September 30, 2008 CET
FromThe Liberal Party
ToDebating the Budget proposal of July 2644
MessageChoose your words carefully. The Liberal Party has always worked for a powerful military and its hard work for decades to create one of the most powerful militaries in the world was thrown to the garbage by some parties in this country. Tough foreign policy is sometimes needed to protect the interests of our people but aside from that view, the Liberal Party and some of its members and affialiates have worked extensively to create friendly diplomatic relationships with many countries. We have introduced to the Senate several free trade agreeements, negotiated by the Former Foreign Affairs Minister Rich Reynolds. The URP claims we instigate problems, why don't you take a look at your radical and violent supporters? The same supporters who killed dozens of military men and women when the universities were closd down.

We will provide reasons for any spending increase or decrease upon request, if necessary.

We advice the URP to moderate their language towards our party as an institution and our members as individuals.

Date03:17:20, September 30, 2008 CET
FromUnited Republics Party
ToDebating the Budget proposal of July 2644
MessageThe United Republicans will not be silenced by the Liberals. Parties across the nation united to oppose the radical Liberal policies. The URP questions how a party with a single political ally in Lodamun can forge strong alliances abroad? How can the LP claim international cooperation when it cannot cooperate on or even intellectually defend its own proposed bills such as this budget?

The URP backs free trade with ALL nations and strong diplomatic ties with ALL nations. As far as I know, the LP has NEVER negotiated a serious international agreement.

Date06:58:05, September 30, 2008 CET
FromThe Liberal Party
ToDebating the Budget proposal of July 2644
MessageLook at all the Free Trade agreements we have. Who has proposed them? The URP has voted against all free trade agreements and alliances proposed in the last one hundred years. Go around the world and ask. We do not need to explain anything to you or to anyone, the record speaks for itself. And please show ONE international agreement that is worthy of recognition, which has been drafted by the URP, to back your statement.

Date07:18:57, September 30, 2008 CET
FromUnited Republics Party
ToDebating the Budget proposal of July 2644
MessageI haven't held the Foreign Ministry in some time, but we always had peace. When the Foreign Minister was taken hostage in Deltaria, I negotiated her release in cooperation with a broad international coalition. I co-founded the North Seleyan Football Association which until reckless wars with Likatonia sponsored by the Liberal Party served to promote peace and unity in North Seleya. I vote against free trade agreements because they are pointless. The URP has made its position clear and it has remained consistent - we support free trade with all nationas and not the piecemeal approach favored by the Liberals who draft treaties for the agrandizment of themselves.

Date07:48:46, September 30, 2008 CET
FromThe Liberal Party
ToDebating the Budget proposal of July 2644
MessageThe Liberal Party had not even been created when the Likatonian situation started, you were in control at that time (and before). Wow! The North Seleyan Football Association is very important (hint: the last comment might be sarcasm). While we did not negotiate the Keris Free Trade Agreement, we have promoted throughout the world and have gained success in getting countries to ratify it. Is that proof enough of our international foreign policy for the URP? Or should we give any more usefull treaties in evidence?

Your record speaks for yourself. Your party has done nothing but "co-found" (there is no evidence of that) the North Seleyan Football Association. Your party advocates free trade but votes against free trade agreements. Your party accusses us of doing nothing, shouldn't you check your record before criticizing other parties?

Date07:52:49, September 30, 2008 CET
FromUnited Republics Party
ToDebating the Budget proposal of July 2644
MessageMy party was inactivated at the start of that war. I suggest the Liberal reexamine the record since its own faulty memory is confusing or perhaps sanitizing its own role in that holocaust.

Date18:12:45, September 30, 2008 CET
FromThe Liberal Party
ToDebating the Budget proposal of July 2644
MessageOOC: First of all, that's OOC. Don't combine IC and OOC. Second of all, you party was inactivated much, much later after the war. Do you remember who was trying to propose a cease-fire? Yes, you. Do you remember who opposed a peace treaty with Likatonia? Yes, you. Your party was inactivated much later. Don't try to lie your way through to relieve yourself of any resposbility. And PLEASE, keep IC and OOC separated.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 52

no
    

Total Seats: 98

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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