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Bill: National Service
Details
Submitted by[?]: Revival Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2122
Description[?]:
| We feel that given the nation grants our fine young citizens a chance to become educated that these same fine young citizens can help others less fortunate through civilian national service. This shall enable us to ensure the professionalism of the army (by keeping it conscript free) whilst ensuring those who benefit from the nation contribute back. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: There shall be no mandatory military or civilian national service.
Current: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve a term in the military.
Proposed: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve a term of civilian national service.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 04:30:53, October 03, 2005 CET | From | Anarchist-Communist League | To | Debating the National Service |
| Message | This bill proposes the enslavement off our citizens! No person should be forced to work. |
| Date | 09:14:44, October 03, 2005 CET | From | NeoSocialist Party | To | Debating the National Service |
| Message | While the intent is noble, making volunteer work compulsory is illogical and the quality of the work will be so low, we would prefer the situation we have now |
| Date | 13:04:39, October 03, 2005 CET | From | Tudeh Party of Quanzar | To | Debating the National Service |
| Message | I agree with the two replies. |
| Date | 16:56:56, October 03, 2005 CET | From | Revival Party | To | Debating the National Service |
| Message | The government pays for their education and yet they are not required to contribute to the economy in return? We find this a little confusing coming from the socialists who demand that property can be taken by the government at whim. I think you will find that where civilian work (this does not mean the voluntary sector) is compulsory for a year or so then the work quality is high if they understand that after it comes the chance to take a degree. This way those who are unwilling to work do not take degrees simply because they are rich. |
| Date | 18:31:41, October 03, 2005 CET | From | Revival Party | To | Debating the National Service |
| Message | The government pays for their education and yet they are not required to contribute to the economy in return? We find this a little confusing coming from the socialists who demand that property can be taken by the government at whim. I think you will find that where civilian work (this does not mean the voluntary sector) is compulsory for a year or so then the work quality is high if they understand that after it comes the chance to take a degree. This way those who are unwilling to work do not take degrees simply because they are rich. |
| Date | 19:05:30, October 03, 2005 CET | From | Tudeh Party of Quanzar | To | Debating the National Service |
| Message | I find it laughable that you appear to be suggesting that after a person's education they sit back and do nothing. |
| Date | 21:13:52, October 03, 2005 CET | From | Anti-Party Political Party | To | Debating the National Service |
| Message | We consider that the term "professionalism", when applied to armed forces, is too often an euphomism for "brutality." This is a purposeless constraint on individual liberty. |
| Date | 22:07:36, October 03, 2005 CET | From | Anti-Party Political Party | To | Debating the National Service |
| Message | We consider that the term "professionalism", when applied to armed forces, is too often an euphomism for "brutality." This is a purposeless constraint on individual liberty. |
| Date | 05:53:49, October 06, 2005 CET | From | NeoSocialist Party | To | Debating the National Service |
| Message | Oh yeah, I imagine giving the government the right to use its citizens for one year is such a victory for liberties and civil rights |
| Date | 06:19:51, October 06, 2005 CET | From | Revival Party | To | Debating the National Service |
| Message | I find it sad that the parties beleive the rich students should be able to simply walk away with government eduation and not have to contribute anything more to society if they do not wish to. |
| Date | 10:41:47, October 06, 2005 CET | From | Tudeh Party of Quanzar | To | Debating the National Service |
| Message | If they're rich, then they'll damn well contribute a very large proportion of their wealth through taxation. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 167 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 234 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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