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Bill: Cabinet Formation Reform
Details
Submitted by[?]: National Centrist Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2043
Description[?]:
| Widening the criteria of who can propose cabinets. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
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From | People's Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Formation Reform | | Message | The current system allows the people far more freedom. it allows them to select who best at represents their State, and who best represents the Nation. Not to mention its a check on arbitrary government. |
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From | People's Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Formation Reform | | Message | The proposed change would make the people who represent your state the same who get to choose your leader. That is actually anti-democratic. |
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From | People's Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Formation Reform | | Message | Because you elect representatives of your State to the Parliament. You do this by voting for a party candidate in a particular district. If the largest parties get to then choose the Cabinet , that means they noy YOU get the chance to select your leader. That's why its anti-democratic. It takes power away from the people. |
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From | People's Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Formation Reform | | Message | Just to clarify- the Cabinet is the ruling body the executive that decides policies for the nation. If you've voted for a winning candidate and want to see those policies happen, the system would betray you because it would put people from the opposition in charge of implementing them. |
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From | | To | Debating the Cabinet Formation Reform | | Message | The biggest parties reflect the democratic spread of votes though in a proportional system. At the moment there is only one person who can do this and they may not represent the largest party. |
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From | People's Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Formation Reform | | Message | Yes but it allows you to select your leader , the right man for the job and not have it chosen for you. There have been separate elections so far, one for the head and one for the legislative body...this would make them the same, and remove the freedom to choose. |
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From | Right Wing Liberals Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Formation Reform | | Message | The Party that wins the most seats should decided who rules.
but a Cabinet should hold 50 percent of the votes so the 1st and 2nd highest would form a coalition if necassary. |
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From | Right Wing Liberals Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Formation Reform | | Message | The head of state should in theory be elected from the same party as the main party winner if you hate a parties leader but love the party is that better than loving the leader but hating the party? |
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From | | To | Debating the Cabinet Formation Reform | | Message | A difficult issue and one I am trying to decide in RL.
My support of this bill stems from your proplems while I was on holiday. You would under this proposal, have been hable to form a new government without needing me as I had the head of state position.
in game terms we believe this would be an extension of democracy and force coalitions to be more about political ideology than simply building the wide and directionless Cabinets we have had in this and the last Parliament - we do include our own term of office. |
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From | | To | Debating the Cabinet Formation Reform | | Message | Parliament will still not choose the head of state, it would choose the cabinet. |
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From | | To | Debating the Cabinet Formation Reform | | Message | This would give more power to more people, rather than an autocratic situtation. |
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From | People's Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Formation Reform | | Message | Yes but how would the government ever implement its policies -if the peopl who are in charge of that come from the opposite party? If you wanted to socialize something it would hardly be appropriate to have me as an economy minister...and vice versa. |
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From | | To | Debating the Cabinet Formation Reform | | Message | Many states have a seperate government and head of state fullfilling different roles though. |
| Date | 01:41:16, April 27, 2005 CET |
From | People's Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Formation Reform | | Message | What do you mean? Usually in those cases the president runs as the head of his party. here there is still seperate elections for President and Parliament. Yet Parliament would get to select who implemented the policies. Not voters, but corrupt number-crunching party hacks. |
| Date | 10:28:33, April 27, 2005 CET |
From | | To | Debating the Cabinet Formation Reform | | Message | Do you know any system where that is not the case? |
| Date | 18:43:12, April 27, 2005 CET |
From | People's Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Formation Reform | | Message | The US? While appointments are vettted by Congress , the minority party can hardly put its own men in power. |
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| Vote |
Seats |
| yes | Total Seats: 133 |
| no | Total Seats: 34 |
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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