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Bill: Games of Progress
Details
Submitted by[?]: Kyoshi Lioness Militia
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2651
Description[?]:
| We wish to change the national passtime of Beluzia and Bailon. Swordfighting is feudal and oppressive. We want to ban sword fighting because it is representative of feudal nobilitys' class monopoly on the people. Basketball will be a much better sport for Beluzia, it is diverse, it crosses cultural bounds. Basketball is a sport that unites the economically and socially oppressed! Bill submitted by Gregory Zaner. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The official national sport.
Old value:: Sword fighting
Current: Chess and Soccer
Proposed: Basketball
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:16:10, October 10, 2008 CET | From | Constitutional Monarchy Party | To | Debating the Games of Progress |
| Message | Basketball has no cultural ties with this nation. Why would we want a sport that does not reflect our nations heritage? |
| Date | 00:42:57, October 11, 2008 CET | From | Kyoshi Lioness Militia | To | Debating the Games of Progress |
| Message | Gregory Zaner retorts The Fascists fail to see the whole point behind this. I have nothing to say but negativities about sword fighting. Sword dueling is oppressive, racist and anti-worker. Basketball is a friendly sport, it crosses racial, cultural, national and socio-economic bounds. Beluzia can no longer dwell on the past, erase the walls that Beluzia has imprisoned itself in! |
| Date | 01:30:15, October 11, 2008 CET | From | Constitutional Monarchy Party | To | Debating the Games of Progress |
| Message | First of all, I wish to inform Mr Zaner that my party is not facicst. My party represents right wing capitalists. I suggest that he gets his advisors to do some research into political ideologies. Sword Fighting is not oppressive, racist or anti-worker. Saying these things does not prove your point without any evidence or argument. Basketball may be a friendly sport, but it is no more Beluzian than Hockey or Football. Our national sport should reflect our culture. I have simply had enough of your new party's attempts to water-down our culture, heritage and traditions. You should call your party the anti-Beluzia party!!! Captain Hector Barbossa II |
| Date | 14:35:09, October 11, 2008 CET | From | Kyoshi Lioness Militia | To | Debating the Games of Progress |
| Message | Gregory Zaner But you capitalists are from the same cut of thread as the fascists, fascism is capitalism in a declining and sickly state...thus both capitalism and fascism are similar economic ideologies. It is oppressive, especially if it is an all out duel. Sword fighting, even not under dueling conditions can condition people to fight for duels. Duels are usually between two wealthy people? right? Well, when one person wins this feudal one-on-one blood sport, the rich man kills the other and takes all his property. This property may be his workers, both the winner's workers and his newly aquired workers from the losers are even more oppressed by one man, for better or for more worse. Also, look at the people that do the sword fighting...ALL BELUZIANS! They are trying to compete with eachother for more slaves/serfs in a sense, some of those slaves may be minorities. We will simply not tolerate classism and their attempts to keep humanity apart, to keep the workers separated and water down our freedoms into facade-freedoms. I would call the Beluzian Nationalist Pirate Party the "Party of Slavers" |
| Date | 17:40:22, October 11, 2008 CET | From | Constitutional Monarchy Party | To | Debating the Games of Progress |
| Message | You cannot call two separate ideologies the same thing simply because you disagree with them sir. Fascists usually favour state regulation of industries if I am correct? In which case, your party is closer to Fascism than my own. I will not deny that there are Fascist elements to my party, but not enough to call us total Fascists. I still fail to see how Duelling is oppressive. Each person volunteers to take part, and to my knowledge the last person to have been killed in such a duel was over 50 years ago. They are simply for fun now. Duels in modern Beluzia are between any two individuals. There are no restrictions related to wealth. In fact under the PPP-BNPP Government, the government encouraged sports clubs to run Sword Fighting classes for all Beluzians. Beluzians do not fight over slaves, it is simply a poor way to deal with our slaves. Trade is far more profitable. Serfdom has been extinct in this nation since the end of feudalism which was well over a thousand years ago. Call us what you like, your opinion on our party has little bearing on our voters. We are here to represent the Pirates and Nationalists of Beluzia, and we are here to stay. Get used to us! -Captain Hector Barbossa II |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 264 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 330 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 156 |
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