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Bill: Impeachment Against President Violet Baker

Details

Submitted by^[?]: The Liberal Party

Status^[?]: passed

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: May 2652

Description^[?]:

We hereby impeach President Violet Baker for the following reasons:

Article 1:

She knowingly and intentionally accepted fraudulent campaign contributions to gain an unfair advantage.

Article 2:

By the actions described in Article 1, she violated the campaign laws of this country.

This impeachment process will take place as set forth by the Impeachment Process Act (http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=196617).

This bill will proceed to a vote to allow debate on the impeachment. A majority of votes present is needed to allow debate. Upon reaching the 50% +1 threashold, the debate on the impeachment will begin.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date	07:08:55, October 14, 2008 CET
From	United Republics Party
To	Debating the Impeachment Against President Violet Baker
Message	What exactly do you base these accusations on?

Date	07:24:23, October 14, 2008 CET
From	The Liberal Party
To	Debating the Impeachment Against President Violet Baker
Message	Read the newspapers.

Date	07:25:08, October 14, 2008 CET
From	The Liberal Party
To	Debating the Impeachment Against President Violet Baker
Message	The President, as head of the campaign, is responsible for all actions within her campaign, whether she knew about them or not.

Date	07:27:51, October 14, 2008 CET
From	United Republics Party
To	Debating the Impeachment Against President Violet Baker
Message	So the charges are ones the Liberal party fabricated with no evidence based on laws that do not exist? Comforting.

Date	07:28:49, October 14, 2008 CET
From	Partie Libertaire Chr�tienne
To	Debating the Impeachment Against President Violet Baker
Message	ooc: play nice children.

Date	07:33:17, October 14, 2008 CET
From	The Liberal Party
To	Debating the Impeachment Against President Violet Baker
Message	Are you saying that given false names for campaign contributions is not illegal?

Date	07:34:59, October 14, 2008 CET
From	The Liberal Party
To	Debating the Impeachment Against President Violet Baker
Message	OOC: I am playing nicely. I am just having some fun. Isn't that what this game is all about? Honestly, I am through with arguing with people. Now, I sit back and let them fight with themselves.

Date	07:39:07, October 14, 2008 CET
From	United Republics Party
To	Debating the Impeachment Against President Violet Baker
Message	I won't answer your hypotheticals. Please provide evidence that false names were on campaign contributions and produce the law you claim is broken. The Liberal Party presented these "charges." So please explain why impeachment is warranted by providing specifics because while I'm willing to answer specific charges, I will not be goaded into a Liberal witch hunt.

Date	14:44:34, October 14, 2008 CET
From	The Liberal Party
To	Debating the Impeachment Against President Violet Baker
Message	Once this bill reaches the majority threasdhold necessary, more evidence will be provided.

Date	00:01:21, October 15, 2008 CET
From	United Republics Party
To	Debating the Impeachment Against President Violet Baker
Message	What evidence? How can you vote to begin impeachment when there is no evidence?

Date	01:45:01, October 15, 2008 CET
From	The Liberal Party
To	Debating the Impeachment Against President Violet Baker
Message	The evidence has been released by the Internal Affairs Ministry. CHECK THE NEWSPAPER!!!

Date	01:46:16, October 15, 2008 CET
From	The Liberal Party
To	Debating the Impeachment Against President Violet Baker
Message	Impeachment will begin if there is a majority of votes present in the affirmative.

Date	02:39:06, October 15, 2008 CET
From	United Republics Party
To	Debating the Impeachment Against President Violet Baker
Message	OOC: I read the newspaper. There is no evidence of laws broken. A partisan report with no basis in fact is not evidence. Please provide evidence. As for RP - this is bad. I will no longer participate because there is no valid rp here. When the Foreign Minister broke specific laws passed by the Senate governing RP you complained to the mods. I wonder how in your mind this action is valid when no law is broken (you have been unable to produce ANY law citing restrictions on campaign contributions and the Liberal Party cannot roleplay contributions made to another party.

Date	03:12:04, October 15, 2008 CET
From	The Liberal Party
To	Debating the Impeachment Against President Violet Baker
Message	OOC: First of all, this is a bill to allow debate. I do not have to produce any evidence now. The Foreign Affairs Minister situation was totally different as you tried to incapacitate my character. You keep bring it up when it was already dealt with by a moderator. As far as roleplay, I can claim anything I want, whenever I want. I control the Internal Affairs Ministry, I roleplay it. Any illegal action within this country is under the jurisdiction of the Internal Affairs Ministry. I never mentioned your characters by name in the news report. That is good ropleplaying. I am afraid that impeachment is not something you chose to participate in or not. If your character gets impeached and removed, it loses its powers. Again, we are not violating the roleplaying rules because we are not incapacitating your character. If this legislature finds that the accusations are credible enough, and removes the President, you have no choice but to abide by it. I understand you disagree with the accusations but there is a big difference between disagreement and it being a clerical error (foreign affairs Minister controversy). You can go ahead and disagree but since we are not violating the roloplaying rules, this impeachment is valid as long as the Senate votes for it.

Date	03:12:31, October 15, 2008 CET
From	The Liberal Party
To	Debating the Impeachment Against President Violet Baker
Message	OOC: Everything cannot be your way everytime.

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Voting

Vote

Seats

yes

Free Peoples Party (43)
The Liberal Party (28)

Total Seats: 71

United Republics Party (59)

Total Seats: 59

abstain

Lodamun National Party (20)

Total Seats: 20

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