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Bill: anti-monarchy bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Seosavists Republican party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2121
Description[?]:
| anti-monarchy bill |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Structure of the executive branch.
Old value:: The Head of State is hereditary and symbolic; the Head of Government chairs the cabinet.
Current: The Head of State is hereditary and symbolic; the Head of Government chairs the cabinet.
Proposed: The Head of State and Head of Government are two separate officials.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The formal title of the Head of State.
Old value:: Imperial Majesty
Current: His Irrevocable Imperial Majesty, by the Almighty's Grace, Inheritor of the House of Elior, Inheritor of the House of Orange-Villayn, Inheritor of the House of Rothingren-Traugott, Albert, Emperor of Luthori, King of Mordusia, King of Rutania, Meleh (King) of the Yeudi Homeland, Head of the House of Orange-Villayn Armstead, Duke of Alcarie, Duke of Canterwall, Holder of the Yeudi Crown of 8 Gems, Supreme Governor of the Church, Defender of the Faith, Defender of the Holy Land.
Proposed: Supreme Chancellor
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:27:56, October 05, 2005 CET | From | Seosavists Republican party | To | Debating the anti-monarchy bill |
| Message | same as usual. |
| Date | 02:06:30, October 05, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the anti-monarchy bill |
| Message | Change the name to something cool. Like "Supreme Chancellor". Yeah, that name owns... |
| Date | 06:50:11, October 05, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the anti-monarchy bill |
| Message | How about Shogun, no other country uses it, and it fits the country's background, as decribed on the wiki page. |
| Date | 06:50:48, October 05, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the anti-monarchy bill |
| Message | Or Chief Lunatic, and rename the parliament, The Asylum. |
| Date | 13:03:18, October 05, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the anti-monarchy bill |
| Message | We're all for a change of title, but article I has to go. |
| Date | 13:05:23, October 05, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the anti-monarchy bill |
| Message | Are you worried the bill might pass? |
| Date | 13:09:33, October 05, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the anti-monarchy bill |
| Message | I don't think there's any danger of it getting a 2/3 super majority. |
| Date | 13:10:14, October 05, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the anti-monarchy bill |
| Message | Then does it really matter if the article is in there? |
| Date | 13:13:43, October 05, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the anti-monarchy bill |
| Message | I was just saying that I would support a change of name. The change of name won't happen, even if we all agree, if that article is still there. |
| Date | 13:38:33, October 05, 2005 CET | From | Redneck Party | To | Debating the anti-monarchy bill |
| Message | The DuP is correct. This wouldn't get the required votes.. |
| Date | 20:40:09, October 05, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the anti-monarchy bill |
| Message | I think it kinda sucks that no one new can be elected leader of the country... I mean, even in Great Britains Constitutional Monarchy the queen is hereditary but they have elections for P.M. In the current system, no one is voted for. |
| Date | 21:10:21, October 05, 2005 CET | From | Seosavists Republican party | To | Debating the anti-monarchy bill |
| Message | I'll go with Supreme Chancellor this time. |
| Date | 21:12:55, October 05, 2005 CET | From | Seosavists Republican party | To | Debating the anti-monarchy bill |
| Message | What do you (ITRP) think for Shogun next time round? |
| Date | 21:41:31, October 05, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the anti-monarchy bill |
| Message | It's ok, I guess. But Shogun is more of an Imperial title. |
| Date | 22:14:14, October 05, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the anti-monarchy bill |
| Message | That's morew than 1/3 voting neigh already. If you'd gone for a hereditory Shogun we'd have voted for it, but now it will fail. |
| Date | 22:41:57, October 05, 2005 CET | From | Seosavists Republican party | To | Debating the anti-monarchy bill |
| Message | I don't care about the name the whole point is to get rid of the monarch the name is just something that has to be changed to make sence! |
| Date | 04:47:09, October 06, 2005 CET | From | United Conservative Party | To | Debating the anti-monarchy bill |
| Message | What is this treason!! Supreme Chancellor!!! Are we to become a Godless Nazi State? Our ancient traditions have given us a constitutional monarch. That is as it should be -- and devine, too! Nazi traitors: OUT! Begone you vile creatures. |
| Date | 10:47:33, October 06, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the anti-monarchy bill |
| Message | UCP: 1. Treason, no. Non-violent movement for change, yes. 2. Godless, no. Pluralism, yes. 3. Nazi, no. Progressive Utopia, yes. 4. Nazism is right wing, the Seosavists, ITRP, and me are left wing. You, DUP, CPP, and Rednecks are right wing... 5. Ancient Traditions also state we were a Shogunate, Buddhists or Muslims, and peaceloving and progressive. 6. Devine? 7. Christian Fundamentalists: OUT! Begone you vile creatures. |
| Date | 13:15:17, October 06, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the anti-monarchy bill |
| Message | "Nazism is righ wing". Really? Are you aware of Hitler's economic policies? If you were to try to place them along this one-dimensional understanding of politics you propose he was positively "left wing". |
| Date | 13:46:33, October 06, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the anti-monarchy bill |
| Message | Hitler was a left-wing right-winger =D Seriously, grouping him into a "left" or "right" wing, you are only explaing half his policies. He just went with whatever gave him more power. Left wing economics, right wing military, and so on and so forth. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 195 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 449 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 106 |
| Random fact: Selucia is Particracy's modern take on Ancient Rome, located on the continent of Majatra. |
| Random quote: "It is not titles that honor men, but men that honor titles." - Niccolo Machiavelli |