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Bill: Constitutional Convention 2664
Details
Submitted by[?]: Liberal Party of Telamon
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2666
Description[?]:
| We seek to discuss the possibility of renaming the \\\"Republic of Telamon\\\" to the \\\"Commonwealth of Telamon\\\". We believe that as our nations true heritage lies in that name it would be a good move to revert to old traditions. Furthermore, we would like to rename the HoS to Chancellor to keep with the new name. Thoughts? If this is passed, the new name of Telamon shall be \"Commonwealth of Telamon\" |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The formal title of the Head of State.
Old value:: President
Current: Hans Hátign Viktor IV, Konungur Tælmörks, Æðsti Gothi Tela, Yfirmaður Samveldisins og Verjandi Trúarbragðanna (His Majesty Viktor IV, King of Telamon, High Chief of the Tela, Head of the Commonwealths and Defender of Faiths)
Proposed: Chancellor
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 08:40:17, November 13, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Ordo Malleus (COM) | To | Debating the Constitutional Convention 2664 |
| Message | We cannot and will not support this. Telamon is a republic operating under a representative government in the form of Parliament. We see no reason to change this. - Thorden Raxney IV COM Party Leader |
| Date | 10:32:10, November 13, 2008 CET | From | Radical Party | To | Debating the Constitutional Convention 2664 |
| Message | We agree. We oppose. Jean Baptiste Prime Minister |
| Date | 13:21:32, November 13, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Party of Telamon | To | Debating the Constitutional Convention 2664 |
| Message | Representative Democracy is not solely available through a Republic. With a Commonwealth we can see have our functioning democracy with the tradition on the side. |
| Date | 15:48:08, November 13, 2008 CET | From | Telamon National Party | To | Debating the Constitutional Convention 2664 |
| Message | We can agree to these reforms, we feel that we need to promote and cherish our history and traditions rather than replace them with politically motivated ideas. |
| Date | 20:34:14, November 13, 2008 CET | From | United Labour Party of Telamon | To | Debating the Constitutional Convention 2664 |
| Message | We support both proposals. Telamon needs more uniqueness! ;-) |
| Date | 20:48:12, November 14, 2008 CET | From | Telamese Defence League | To | Debating the Constitutional Convention 2664 |
| Message | We\'d be willing to back this proposal. |
| Date | 01:43:06, November 15, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Party of Telamon | To | Debating the Constitutional Convention 2664 |
| Message | Just to make it clear. Telamon was a Commonwealth for its first 400 years of existence, and we believe we should return to our true roots. |
| Date | 01:46:40, November 15, 2008 CET | From | Radical Party | To | Debating the Constitutional Convention 2664 |
| Message | I will override my brother\'s prior statement, and endorse these reforms. Ingrid Baptiste Party Leader |
| Date | 01:47:17, November 15, 2008 CET | From | Radical Party | To | Debating the Constitutional Convention 2664 |
| Message | * on the issue of Commonwealth. Not Chancellor. Ingrid Baptiste Party Leader |
| Date | 01:48:10, November 15, 2008 CET | From | Radical Party | To | Debating the Constitutional Convention 2664 |
| Message | OOC: A Chancellor is a position for Head of Government, not Head of State. In Germany, the Chancellor is in the same place as a Prime Minister, while they also have a President. |
| Date | 02:56:11, November 15, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Party of Telamon | To | Debating the Constitutional Convention 2664 |
| Message | Guess is should have made these separate. I\'ll propose another just for the Commonwealth. And what does it matter if some make believe country in some fictitious planet used the word \"Chancellor\" different to us. We are from Telamon, and we are always right! |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 164 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 127 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 210 |
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