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Bill: United Democratic Front
Details
Submitted by[?]: Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2666
Description[?]:
| Proposing a Cabinet |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the 
Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Königstreue Sozialdemokrat 社会民主
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Liberal Party of Hulstria
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Hulstrian Labor Party
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Königstreue Sozialdemokrat 社会民主
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Königstreue Sozialdemokrat 社会民主
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Hulstrian Labor Party
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Liberaldemokratische Allianz
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Liberal Party of Hulstria
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Liberal Party of Hulstria
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Liberaldemokratische Allianz
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 05:44:46, November 15, 2008 CET | From | Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten | To | Debating the United Democratic Front |
| Message | \"We have attempted to distribute ministries equitably among the parties, though we had originally preferred to wait until after the next election, for our friends in the VFA to regain their seats. If any party has any specific qualms with this list, please do list them here. As I have said throughout my premiership, I stand for unity above division.\" -Cornelia Pietersen Staatsminister of Greater Hulstria Chairman of the HNP DM for Graaffsberg South |
| Date | 06:00:52, November 15, 2008 CET | From | Königstreue Sozialdemokrat 社会民主 | To | Debating the United Democratic Front |
| Message | First of all, in this proposal the HNP continues its hold on the Finance Ministry; and we strongly disagree with the financial direction of this nation under the HNP. Secondly, the Christians have been placed in control of the Ministry of Education & Culture, we just simply oppose for the reason of secularism. And finally, why is it that we have more positions in this proposal than the HLP? We\'re not complaining, but they are after all, a much larger party than us at the moment. |
| Date | 06:08:05, November 15, 2008 CET | From | Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten | To | Debating the United Democratic Front |
| Message | \"Pieter Coetzee has been an excellent Finance Minister, and has managed our economy within the lines of the policies of the government of which he is a member. As for the Christian Liberal Party\'s control of the Ministry of Education and Culture, we had considered the VFA for that position, but felt that as most of their grievances as of late had been economic, they would prefer the Ministry of Trade and Industry. As for the last part of your query, we gave the VFA more seats in anticipation of the election next year, which we expect will result in a revitalised VFA.\" -Cornelia Pietersen Staatsminister of Greater Hulstria Chairman of the HNP DM for Graaffsberg South |
| Date | 06:57:05, November 15, 2008 CET | From | Hulstrian Labor Party | To | Debating the United Democratic Front |
| Message | Because obviously the HLP is going to lose all it\'s own seats. A brick wall can see it only has the seats it has because FAP and VFA left, the HLP definitely has no hope of maintaining the seats it currently has and will drop considerably with the return of both FAP and VFA. It\'s not like currently the HLP holds more than 25% of the seats in the Imperial Diet. The HNP and it\'s little coalition has destroyed much of the legislation that the HLP worked so hard to gain while it held absolutely no seats in the Imperial Diet . Does the HNP expect it act like a small child who has just gotten a lollipop, to beam happily and just accept the gross injustices that it has suffered. This proposal would not even contain the HLP if the HNP did not fear the VFA refusing or the return of FAP. Frankly, the HLP is insulted that we are being put in as an afterthought. The HLP will continue to support bills we think improves the standard of living of workers in Hulstria, but we want no part in this corrupt cabinet that, other than the VFA of course, is happy to accept your word as gospel. If the HNP wanted unity, it should have done it from the start, not as a cuddle up to the VFA. |
| Date | 07:17:17, November 15, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Party of Hulstria | To | Debating the United Democratic Front |
| Message | \"What gross injustices is the HLP pointing out? Workers can do what they please, strike when they want to, organize when they want to, but unlike the HLP policy we didn\'t just give rights to the workers we gave rights to the employers. The right to fire those who no longer wish to work for whatever reason. Is it true equality if we tie the hands of one group of people who have been integral in the building of Hulstria, the entrepreneurs and industrialists? Children are no longer stuck in shoddy run public schools but have the option of private school that aren\'t overburdened by inefficient bureaucracy. What is wrong with that? We have cut taxes for the every tax bracket and eliminated taxes on the poorest citizens and created a budget. We have brought high quality private health care, that is subsidies for those unable to afford it. Which is going to be fewer people, since there is no longer any tax on those lower income brackets that would need such aid. The LPH-HNP coalition has brought freedom, and TRUE equality. Not some hacked equality that favors one group over another. Unlike the FAP we choose to keep money in the hands of those who earn it, the people who should have the right to use it as they please. As to the CLP receiving the Education Cabinet post, there has been no christian or religious proposals and if their were the LPH wouldn\'t support them, we a secular party and refuse to favor any religion over another.\" -Theda Kappelmuller Hilgar LPH Spokeswoman |
| Date | 07:23:36, November 15, 2008 CET | From | Liberaldemokratische Allianz | To | Debating the United Democratic Front |
| Message | Perhaps the VFA would care to both to read our party\'s mission statement; it isn\'t long. \"The CLP advocates the application of Christian principles to public policy while maintaining a healthy separation of church and state.\" So either the VFA have never taken the time to read it or have never bothered to look at our voting record. |
| Date | 07:41:02, November 15, 2008 CET | From | Hulstrian Labor Party | To | Debating the United Democratic Front |
| Message | Oh, Those injustices are to the people of Hulstria, the HLP was referring to the injustices it has suffered. It was not so long ago that it was excluded from this little party because of its name. How anyone can suggest it is a socialist party is beyond the HLP. From the word go after FAP left, the HLP has been ignored as if it was not a threat. While it was willing in the beginning to come to compromises in the beginning, the Liberal-Nationalist coalition has steamed ahead without even explaining itself to HLP complaints. And now that VFA has returned, magically the Liberal-Nationals wish for a unified cabinet, giving the HLP it\'s leavings and expecting it to remain quite. The HLP wants FAP to return as it was never treated this poorly when it was around. The HLP will not stand to be added into the cabinet as an afterthought, it was happy to compromise in the beginning but we guess the HLP is not willing to kiss up to the Liberal-Nationals now. |
| Date | 17:05:59, November 15, 2008 CET | From | Königstreue Sozialdemokrat 社会民主 | To | Debating the United Democratic Front |
| Message | To the CLP, we have read your mission statement before. To have Christian principles to public policy cannot be done at the same time as claiming to have separation of church and state. And to the HNP\'s prediction that we would have big gains in the next election...that\'s what we originally said, before the FAP returned. Their return has prevented our party from having our predicted victory. |
| Date | 21:47:23, November 15, 2008 CET | From | Konstitutionelle Monarchie Partei | To | Debating the United Democratic Front |
| Message | Too late to remove that wrench, sorry about that. *slaps own hand* |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 373 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 175 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 102 |
| Random fact: Cabinet ministers who disagree seriously with the head of government would usually be expected to resign. Parties within the cabinet may attempt to manoeuvre to replace the head of government though, for example by proposing a new cabinet bill or voting for an early election. |
| Random quote: "No man has ever been born a Negro hater, a Jew hater, or any other kind of hater. Nature refuses to be involved in such suicidal practices." - Harry Bridges |