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Bill: Educational Bill zum Wohle der Kinder Hulstriens
Details
Submitted by[?]: Herrenclub Werffenberg
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2666
Description[?]:
| §1: What use is regulating religions if we let any of them indoctrinate our children, no matter what obscure, unnatural, or revolting heresies they preach? §2: Speaking of revolting, should we really subject our children to the shame and the impurity such teachings must invariably inflict? §3: If the parents are informed about disciplinary measures beforehand, they can decide themselves whether they deem the schools that use them fit for their children, according to their discipline and their ability to bear the consequences of their doing. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Any religion may set up a school, with no regulations.
Current: Religious schools are allowed, but are strictly regulated. Only recognised religions may set up religious schools.
Proposed: Only recognised religions may set up religious schools, with no regulations.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Sexual education in schools.
Old value:: Schools have an obligation to give sexual education at some point in puberty.
Current: Schools have an obligation to give sexual education at some point in puberty, but individual students have an opt-out option.
Proposed: Schools should not educate students in sexual matters.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The teacher's right to discipline children.
Old value:: Teachers are forbidden from striking children and may only use non-contact discipline (detention, expulsion etc).
Current: Teachers are forbidden from striking children and may only use non-contact discipline (detention, expulsion etc).
Proposed: Discipline levels are set by schools.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:28:22, November 15, 2008 CET | From |  Hulstrian Labor Party | To | Debating the Educational Bill zum Wohle der Kinder Hulstriens |
| Message | It seem\'s the PWHH is living in a romantic past, the HLP agrees with the first article but the last 2 are without thought. Education in sexual matters teaches about contraception and STI\'s. No-one has the right to physically touch another student unless it is the parents, Full stop. |
| Date | 23:53:46, November 15, 2008 CET | From | Herrenclub Werffenberg | To | Debating the Educational Bill zum Wohle der Kinder Hulstriens |
| Message | But if the parents know that physical punishment is usual at the school they send their child too, this can be seen as consenting to this practice. Now if we forbid the parents to delegate the right to hit their children, we might as well forbid them to do it themselves. |
| Date | 01:44:35, November 16, 2008 CET | From | Hulstrian Labor Party | To | Debating the Educational Bill zum Wohle der Kinder Hulstriens |
| Message | You cannot delegate the discipline of children onto others, and even if the HLP saw this is a moral right of parents to delegate the punishment of children, there is still article 2 that is without thought. Why sexual education may be revolting in the eye\'s of the PWHH, but are STI\'s and teen pregnancy\'s less revolting? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 548 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 102 |
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