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Bill: Repeal of the Dranland Civil Rights Amendment Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Dranland First Party (CC)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes the withdrawal from a treaty. It will require half of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2670
Description[?]:
| The One Nation Party believes that the 'Dranland Civil Rights Amendment' - whilst its intentions were undoubtedly noble, in aiming to protect the 'rights' of Dranland's citizens - is destructive to tradition, decency, culture, common morality, and the family. We believe that this document is unnecessarily restrictive of policy in many issues involving civil rights, and allows for no dissent on these issues whatsoever. Essentially, it perpetuates a left-wing monopoly on all civil rights issues, and allows only policies that are in harmony with this leftist orthodoxy. As such, we believe this document, which should never have been enacted at all, and all of its effects, should be repealed. |
Proposals
Article 1
Withdraw from the Dranland Civil Rights Amendment.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:12:31, November 24, 2008 CET | From | National Bolshevik Party | To | Debating the Repeal of the Dranland Civil Rights Amendment Act |
| Message | You need to present better arguments than allowing rights abusing simply because of tradition. Are there specific parts you have a problem with, or the entire bill? |
| Date | 05:33:48, November 24, 2008 CET | From | Dranland First Party (CC) | To | Debating the Repeal of the Dranland Civil Rights Amendment Act |
| Message | At MilTech's request, we will present an argument for our proposal that this document be repealed, focusing in particular on the articles within the document that we are most concerned with. We have outlined only those that we are most concerned with, though we oppose every article in the amendment to some extent. Article 4) This article concerns the legality of divorce, and the only constitutionally acceptable option for policy in this area, under the amendment, is that divorce is legal for any reason whatsoever. Our reason for opposing this is that it undermines marriage, which is supposed to be a life-long engagement between man and wife - and reduces the bond of marriage to nothing more than a trivial and temporary contract, to be ended whenever either partner feels like it. As marriage is the foundation of the nuclear family, and the family is the cornerstone of our society and the beacon of our values and morality, it is important that people respect the permanency of marriage, rather than entering into marriages which they are uncertain they can commit to. We wish to repeal this amendment because we do not recognize the capacity to divorce without due cause as a 'right', much less a fundamental 'right', and we believe the option of changing policy regarding the issue of divorce should remain a possibility. Article 9) This article also concerns marriage. We do not subscribe in any way to the extreme-individualistic view that collective products of society, such as shared culture, customs, values, morals and traditions, are completely irrelevant, and that each individual should only concern himself with his own perceptions of what is good and bad, and his own pursuits, ignoring all other social phenomenon. This view is misguided philosophical delusion and Utopian idealism - culture does matter; customs, values, morals, and traditions do matter. As such, marriage, which is perhaps our nations most important custom and tradition, a crucial part of our cultural heritage, and indeed, an integral component of the family and of our society, we believe, should be recognized by the government in order that it may be protected from destructive elements. The current amendment does not allow any other policy option other than a complete government indifference to the traditional institution of marriage - for the aforementioned reasons, this must be repealed. This amendment essentially perpetuates a culture-less, value-less, anarchic society, whereby each individual is free to do as he pleases in spite of the many other important elements of civil society. Article 10) Again, article 10 concerns the issue of marriage - specifically, polygamy. For the reasons we have already stated previously, we oppose polygamy because it undermines our nation's traditional perception of what constitutes a marriage, and is not in harmony with our national culture and identity, which, regardless of the parties in this nation who seem to believe that culture and tradition are meaningless and should be subject, like everything else, to dog-eat-dog competition, we believe to be of great concern. Our culture is worth protecting - it defines who we are as citizens of Dranland and gives us our own unique identity, and creates comradely and unity among our people. Without this unified culture, we are not a nation - we are a large land-mass with a large number of individuals living on it. Our traditional cultural conception of marriage, between a man and a woman, is integral to the functioning of our civil society, and it should be protected from foreign notions of marriage for this reason. Article 11) This article concerns homosexuality. As we stated previously, we believe that culture, values, morality, religion, and tradition are important components of society, each with their own function and each contributing to what we know as civilized society. We do not subscribe to the common view in this nation that these things do not matter, and that the only thing that does matter is the individual and his selfish interests - this is a delusion. As such, we believe that the option of restricting homosexual life-style choices in Dranland should not be restricted by this amendment, based only on the philosophical abstraction that every person is 'equal', and that every person's own individual life-style and conceptions of right and wrong are equally acceptable. Again, this abstraction is ideological nonsense. If local governments, on behalf of their communities and their culture, values and morality, advocate that homosexuality be banned, we do not believe they should be restricted from this option - this is their fundamental right as a state. This amendment protects a single, narrow, leftist view of society, and if the people of Dranland do not agree with this narrow conception, they should have the option to vote, through their representative governmental bodies, to change it. *As a side-note, one of our underlying objections to all of the articles in this amendment is that they strip local governments of the rights to determine for themselves in accordance with the interests of their own unique local communities and families. We do not believe this fundamental right of states should be infringed upon by legally binding federal amendments.* |
| Date | 05:40:25, November 24, 2008 CET | From | National Bolshevik Party | To | Debating the Repeal of the Dranland Civil Rights Amendment Act |
| Message | Thank you for taking to time to respond so thoroughly to these articles. We may make counter-points to these latter, as most of the reasoning employed seems to invoke the idea that majority culture should be recognized by the state as a way of protecting it from cultural change. |
| Date | 21:58:17, November 24, 2008 CET | From | Party | To | Debating the Repeal of the Dranland Civil Rights Amendment Act |
| Message | We agree with the things mentioned in the Dranland First parties message. However, we do not think, nor would we want, the government to ensure the survival of culture, tradtions, and heritage. We will ensure the survival of those things ourselves, not with the help of some state, which would just help to destroy our culture. Because the state is inherently evil. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 46 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 219 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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