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Bill: NFP Bill2
Details
Submitted by[?]: Nationalist Freedom Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2123
Description[?]:
| A bill to seperate state and church |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Religious schools are not allowed.
Current: Religious schools are not allowed.
Proposed: Religious schools are allowed, but are strictly regulated. Only recognised religions may set up religious schools.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Remuneration of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The salaries and pensions of ministers of religions shall be regulated by the law, but shall be borne by the religious communities themselves.
Current: Ministers of religion shall receive no remuneration whatsoever.
Proposed: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 05:53:15, October 08, 2005 CET | From |  Kanjoran People's Party | To | Debating the NFP Bill2 |
| Message | I agree with Article 2, but am undecided on Article 1 and leaning toward no. |
| Date | 11:43:03, October 08, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Freedom Party | To | Debating the NFP Bill2 |
| Message | "I agree with Article 2, but am undecided on Article 1 and leaning toward no." I informed the World Jewish Society about your previous part in the banning of jewish schools. - did they get in contact with you? I must inform them about the latest! |
| Date | 14:49:11, October 08, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran People's Party | To | Debating the NFP Bill2 |
| Message | Yes, they did contact me and I laid out my argument nicely. The leader accepted my good intentions although urged me to accept strictly regulated public schools. I told him that due to my strong feelings in both directions, I will never be comfortable with either decision, and I would always use my best judgement in deciding these. I remain a member. |
| Date | 14:52:28, October 08, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran People's Party | To | Debating the NFP Bill2 |
| Message | Also, half the leadership seems to agree whole-heartedly with my decision, while half are against. Your contact will not be highly damaging in the least. |
| Date | 16:25:29, October 08, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Freedom Party | To | Debating the NFP Bill2 |
| Message | "Also, half the leadership seems to agree whole-heartedly with my decision, while half are against. Your contact will not be highly damaging in the least." The reason I contacted the WJC is because you are a member of the WJC and you are baning Jewish schools. I thought that they had a right to know. I'm a member of two Christian organisations, if I voted no to this bill, I wouldn't be worth my salt. I was simply informing them about this, thats all. If the WJC like to ban Jewish schools, thats fine, I didn't think they agreed with that, but we live and learn. |
| Date | 19:47:20, October 08, 2005 CET | From | Populist Liberal Party | To | Debating the NFP Bill2 |
| Message | The PLP is against private schools of any sort, but especially religious schools. We oppose private schools because all parents should have the same educational options, so that educational inequity does not preserve families' economic inequity. We oppose religious schools in particular because some-- maybe not even more, but some-- will teach creationism and many would have absintence-only sex education, and to teach a child that sort of thing is child abuse. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 144 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 161 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 294 |
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