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Bill: New Alorian Flag
Details
Submitted by[?]: Nationalist Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2688
Description[?]:
| We want do propose a new Alorian Flag. After the terrible happenings a few years ago, the NWO occupation, we must have a new flag that simbolizes a NEW aloria. A stronger and better Aloria. We must leave the past behind us, and get on with the future. The flag has the national color of Aloria, purple (don't confused it with our party's color, which is also purple, but it was official yellow but the IPA already had that color, so we change it in the national color purple...) The lion symbolizes our national animal. We must be brave as a lion, protect our terretory from foreign invasions, be proud like a lion to our history and our culture! The five stars above the lion symbolizes the five Provinces of Aloria (Sildar, Ultran, Krentori, Gavonshire and Kurmal). This is the picture... http://particracy.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Aloriannewflag.JPG Please vote yes. We need change and a better, stronger and rebuilded Aloria. This flag has been around for centuries now, maybe time for a new one! |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:30:15, December 24, 2008 CET | From | Nationalist Party | To | Debating the New Alorian Flag |
| Message | please discuss |
| Date | 02:33:46, December 24, 2008 CET | From | Communist Party of Aloria | To | Debating the New Alorian Flag |
| Message | That flag is freaking awesome. 100% support. |
| Date | 02:54:11, December 24, 2008 CET | From | Alorian Populist Party (DemCoa) | To | Debating the New Alorian Flag |
| Message | Yes. In keeping with the spirit of a new Aloria, I would also support renaming our country the Second Democratic Republic of Aloria, with a new constitution providing for a smaller legislature (preferably either 99 or 101 seats) named something else, and a stronger executive with the sole power to propose cabinets. Would you mind making the center stripe Red? The same color as the current stripe.... |
| Date | 16:40:57, December 24, 2008 CET | From | Communist Party of Aloria | To | Debating the New Alorian Flag |
| Message | We'd support a name change, but not so huge of a reduction in seats. |
| Date | 16:40:57, December 24, 2008 CET | From | Communist Party of Aloria | To | Debating the New Alorian Flag |
| Message | We'd support a name change, but not so huge of a reduction in seats. |
| Date | 17:42:39, December 24, 2008 CET | From | Industrialist Party of Aloria | To | Debating the New Alorian Flag |
| Message | Why not stylize the new Aloria as a Confederacy like it once was? The Second Democratic Confederacy of Aloria. The flag fits it perfect. And I was just thinking of a new flag too, tried to make it, and it sucked. We could even have a new "Constitution" and such. I am fond of the old flag though, it could still be the official flag of Gavonshire or such. |
| Date | 18:16:58, December 24, 2008 CET | From | Communist Party of Aloria | To | Debating the New Alorian Flag |
| Message | Second Confederate Republic sounds better in my opinion. |
| Date | 20:48:44, December 24, 2008 CET | From | Industrialist Party of Aloria | To | Debating the New Alorian Flag |
| Message | That is better sounding. If Aloria was a confederacy again we could draw up a nice Constitution of how the Provincial governments work. Hell, we could rename the Provinces as "Sovereign States" or something Confederate sounding. |
| Date | 20:49:54, December 24, 2008 CET | From | Industrialist Party of Aloria | To | Debating the New Alorian Flag |
| Message | It would allow places like Krentori and Kurmal to be totally different worlds, like having free healthcare in one place and a free market health care in another. |
| Date | 22:08:25, December 24, 2008 CET | From | Alorian Populist Party (DemCoa) | To | Debating the New Alorian Flag |
| Message | I'm all for empowered provincial governments, but I see our country as more a federation then a confederation. If we are going to become a confederation, then proportional representation makes little sense. confederations would give equal representations to all sovereign states. My position is: A) Don't want to be a confederation (even though I support Devolution) B) If we do become a confederation, then we have to adjust parliamentary seat representation from our currently proportional representation to an equal representation, in keeping with the confederate idea of equal soveriegnty for each state (whereas before only the Republic overall is soveriegn). Otherwise, we would not be a confederation. BTW, I wanted to lessen the amount of seats in our legislature, and rename it, because I wanted the number of seats each party has to be exactly the same as the percent control they have. I wanted 101 and 99 just so that the number would be odd (but still very close to 100) so we would never have to worry about a tie. I guess its not that big of deal.... |
| Date | 04:38:43, December 25, 2008 CET | From | Genuine Progress Alliance | To | Debating the New Alorian Flag |
| Message | New Flag - Probably. I don't think we need to change our flag anyway, 'coz it's okay the way it is. Nice flag, though, NP. New Legislature - Totally support the minimizing, but name is just okay as it is for me. New Country Name - No. I like this country as the Democratic Republic of Aloria. |
| Date | 13:39:58, December 25, 2008 CET | From | New Socialist Alliance | To | Debating the New Alorian Flag |
| Message | We'd vote yes on the flag |
| Date | 17:21:10, December 25, 2008 CET | From | Alorian Populist Party (DemCoa) | To | Debating the New Alorian Flag |
| Message | I think we should only change the flag if we change the name, in keeping with the spirit of a new Aloria. If PDAP likes Democratic Republic of Aloria (as do I) How'd about the Second Democratic Republic of Aloria? |
| Date | 19:11:29, December 25, 2008 CET | From | Alorian Populist Party (DemCoa) | To | Debating the New Alorian Flag |
| Message | I would also look into having a new national anthem, perhaps one the alludes to the blood of martyrs who fought through trying times against despair and won a victory for Aloria against the New World Order. |
| Date | 00:06:25, December 26, 2008 CET | From | Nationalist Party | To | Debating the New Alorian Flag |
| Message | We don't like name change of our country.. after all: we're still a DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC.. this name represents freedom and liberty, so it's ok just the way it is. On the anthem... we could consider a new one, but not one about the past war... an anthem must represent thousands of years of Aloria, not just 1 single war... |
| Date | 00:08:23, December 26, 2008 CET | From | Communist Party of Aloria | To | Debating the New Alorian Flag |
| Message | Lots of nations have anthems based around one war. |
| Date | 00:26:02, December 26, 2008 CET | From | Alorian Populist Party (DemCoa) | To | Debating the New Alorian Flag |
| Message | Star Spangled Banner: War of 1812 French National Anthem (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong)= French Revolution It shouldn't be based entirely around one event, I agree. But there's no reason we couldn't have something in there.... |
| Date | 15:47:29, December 26, 2008 CET | From | Communist Party of Aloria | To | Debating the New Alorian Flag |
| Message | We could edit Flower of Scotland (unofficial Scottish anthem) O flower of Scotland When will we see your like again That fought and died for Your wee bit hill and glen And stood against him Proud Edward's army And sent him homeward Tae think again The hills are bare now And autumn leaves lie thick and still O'er land that is lost now Which those so dearly held And stood against him Proud Edward's army And sent him homeward Tae think again Those days are passed now And in the past they must remain But we can still rise now And be the nation again That stood against him Proud Edward's army And sent him homeward Tae think again |
| Date | 18:07:43, December 26, 2008 CET | From | Alorian Populist Party (DemCoa) | To | Debating the New Alorian Flag |
| Message | Good idea, though Tae think again obviously wouldn't work for Aloria. |
| Date | 05:00:14, December 27, 2008 CET | From | Genuine Progress Alliance | To | Debating the New Alorian Flag |
| Message | I think the anthem we have right now already depicts the martyrdom of the heroes of the war. The current anthem really talks about fighting for freedom and fighting against tyranny. As for "Second Democratic Republic of Aloria", I don't think we should add the word "Second". Just leave it as it is. |
| Date | 05:14:36, December 27, 2008 CET | From | Alorian Populist Party (DemCoa) | To | Debating the New Alorian Flag |
| Message | not really it doesn't |
| Date | 02:23:07, December 29, 2008 CET | From | Nationalist Party | To | Debating the New Alorian Flag |
| Message | this one don't vote... wrong bill - use New Alorian Flag (2) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 376 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 142 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 48 |
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