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Bill: Power From the States IV
Details
Submitted by[?]: Tuesday Is Coming
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2125
Description[?]:
| Let people blow stuff up while betting on sporting events, no matter which state they live in. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards fireworks.
Old value:: Local governments determine fireworks laws.
Current: Local governments determine fireworks laws.
Proposed: The sale of fireworks is unregulated, anyone may buy them.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The right to gamble.
Old value:: The legality of gambling is a matter of local governments.
Current: Gambling is illegal unless taking place in a licensed casino.
Proposed: Gambling is legal across the nation, no regulation whatsoever.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The funding of sports clubs.
Old value:: Local governments decide the funding policy of sports clubs.
Current: Local governments decide the funding policy of sports clubs.
Proposed: The government does not fund sports clubs; only private ones are allowed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:23:29, October 12, 2005 CET | From |  National People's Gang | To | Debating the Power From the States IV |
| Message | We don't have any "States". |
| Date | 18:11:16, October 12, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Power From the States IV |
| Message | It makes more sense than "power from the nations." The basic idea is to reverse the "Power to the states" bills. Do you have a better suggestion? |
| Date | 22:39:58, October 12, 2005 CET | From | National People's Gang | To | Debating the Power From the States IV |
| Message | "Power to the State" would be more accurate |
| Date | 03:49:53, October 13, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Power From the States IV |
| Message | As this does the opposite of the power to the states bills, I shall continue to name my own bills without your help. |
| Date | 12:40:05, October 13, 2005 CET | From | National People's Gang | To | Debating the Power From the States IV |
| Message | You probably overlooked the importance of the letter "s". The earlier bills were called "Power to the States" because we had states. Now we have nations. However, in removing authority from the newly-named "nations" you are implementing policies in a way which imposes the authority of central government. You are, therefore, assigning "Power to the State". It's a subtlety thing, you're probably right not to let that trouble you after all this time. |
| Date | 16:47:47, October 13, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Power From the States IV |
| Message | As none of these bills send any of the power to the central government, and the main theme is taking the power away, it is reasonable to ignore you. |
| Date | 21:37:02, October 13, 2005 CET | From | National People's Gang | To | Debating the Power From the States IV |
| Message | The intended theme may be the taking away of power. But who or what is doing the taking? The action of bringing the bills presupposes that central government has the authority - and the desire - to strip powers from the nations. |
| Date | 22:44:17, October 13, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Power From the States IV |
| Message | It's an attmept to reverse bills called "devolution." Why not call it "reversing devolution"? We of course agree that the central government shoud not be permitted to over-ride laws passed by invidual nations. |
| Date | 00:20:52, October 14, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Power From the States IV |
| Message | "Reversing Devolutionary Tyranny" I, II, III,IV, etc. ? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 55 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 202 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 43 |
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