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Bill: Religions
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Workers
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2706
Description[?]:
| These changes: I believe that these changes should be advertised because I believe that religion should be a totally private part of someone's life, and this will stop the acting of extremist religions, and the trying to convert of religions to all other religions, for example jahova's witnesses. I understand that this is and extremely sensitive topic, and we remind all other parties that religions are not actually banned by this proposal, they are only stopped from overadvertising their faiths, and are still encouraged to work and live to their own ways, but are not to advertise their way of life, and try to make others change and live in this way. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards evangelism and religious advertising.
Old value:: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Current: Religions are required to obtain government approval before promoting themselves or advertising in any manner.
Proposed: Religions are not permitted to promote themselves or advertise in any manner whatsoever.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:37:36, January 22, 2009 CET | From | The Likatonian Imperium party | To | Debating the Religions |
| Message | i think it will cut down religous tension as well and stop the rise of relion on religion violence. |
| Date | 22:06:07, January 22, 2009 CET | From | Christian Democrat Party | To | Debating the Religions |
| Message | The CDP condemns this proposal and believes it to be an attack on the rights of religions. Religions deserve equal rights with companies and so must have the right to promote and advertise themselves. Religious advertising is essential as without it, people cannot learn about the different types of religions and religion will be cut off from normal society. Yes, this bill does not ban religion in theory, but bans all access to it! We believe that religious advertising should be regulated, like any other advertising, so it does not promote hatred or display prejudice to other religions. We believe it is ridiculous to suggest stopping religious advertising will stop extremism - hatred propoganda and advertising are entirely different matters. Therefore, this party will do everything to prevent this attack on relgion and beseech this nation's parties to think carefully before supporting a policy which has only been proposed to halt the irritation that Jehovah's Witnesses can cause us. |
| Date | 14:27:45, January 23, 2009 CET | From | Neo Kanist Rite Party of Sorbanika | To | Debating the Religions |
| Message | We will have to agree with the CDP on this one. LIP, getting rid of religious advertising will not eradicate "relion (sic) on religion violence". Religious tension is as a result of extremist groups promoting themselves who have no actual connections with the legitimate church/religious, organisation, therefore banning religious advertising would be completing unfair on these. We cannot see how you want to ban religions from advertising themselves whilst allowing companies selling tobacco and alcohol to do so, these products do much more harm to our nation than religion. We believe that is is wrong for religions to try and force themselves upon others, this goes against the common right of freedom of religion, however there is a stark difference between ultra-evangelical preachings and religious advertising/ promotion. To ban religious advertising and promotion would be an irresponsible and grossly ignorant thing to do. |
| Date | 18:01:21, January 23, 2009 CET | From | Christian Democrat Party | To | Debating the Religions |
| Message | The CDP would like to apologise for their initial over-agressive reaction to this bill. We see that the Principality of Linkon acts with the benefit of society in mind - in trying to reduce religiouse extremism and those enforcing views on others. However, we still see this bill would be an unsuccessful way in dealing with these issues and call for its removal from debate, but we would like to apologise for implying that this bill was proposed to discriminate against religious freedom. |
| Date | 22:41:53, January 23, 2009 CET | From | United Workers | To | Debating the Religions |
| Message | OOC: ah no warries jammey, wish i could think of an argument as good as that one!!! |
| Date | 20:22:01, January 27, 2009 CET | From | Free thinking Party | To | Debating the Religions |
| Message | we agree with CDP OOC: atheists and christians are currently competing with their advertising and that is the sort of behavior which should be regulated |
| Date | 12:15:02, February 04, 2009 CET | From | Christian Democrat Party | To | Debating the Religions |
| Message | Principality of Linkon - did you accidentally put this to vote - seeing as even you have voted against it? |
| Date | 18:52:33, February 04, 2009 CET | From | United Workers | To | Debating the Religions |
| Message | Nope, i havn't done this accedenally. This was a 'silly' bill, and for the first time, i shall vote against it to remove it from circulation, and hopefully in the future, forget the embarresment and publicity this bill has caused to my party. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 408 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 258 |
| Random fact: Submitting a bill without any proposals in it will not attract or detract voters. It will not raise your visibility or change your political position. |
| Random quote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself." - Thomas Paine |