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Bill: International Affairs
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Workers
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2701
Description[?]:
Change the following: We believe this should be passed because there are times when deperate measures must occure, and these should be very carefully monitered, so that the police and law enforcement agencies can recieve vital information in times of desperate need, and they will need to be closely monitered so that they don't misuse this law. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The use of torture for obtaining information.
Old value:: Torture is never allowed.
Current: Torture is never allowed.
Proposed: Suspects can only be tortured under grave emergencies where the information is vital.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 12:12:57, January 24, 2009 CET | From | Christian Democrat Party | To | Debating the International Affairs |
Message | The CDP is ENRAGED by this disgraceful attack on human rights. Torture, under NO circumstances can ever be allowed, it is a disgusting and violent way to attempt to gain information. Information obtained by torture is also unreliable - torturing suspects means they may be forced to confess when they are innocent and know nothing and may make up confessions in order to stop their pain, or exaggerate to give our authorities what they think they want to here. And has the Principality of Linkon considered the effects if the person subject to the torture is innocent? Torture is a terrifying situation which often leaves permanent physical and psychological damage - completely unfair if the person is innocent. |
Date | 00:09:18, January 25, 2009 CET | From | Free thinking Party | To | Debating the International Affairs |
Message | We agree with CDP, torture is wrong in any case, put individuals in isolation in any case (to prevent suspect terrorists contacting their groups) but torture such as water-boarding is VILE. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||||
yes |
Total Seats: 0 | ||||||
no |
Total Seats: 476 | ||||||
abstain | Total Seats: 189 |
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