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Bill: APL Religious reforms

Details

Submitted by^[?]: Anarchist Party of Lodamun

Status^[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: May 2707

Description^[?]:

religious reforms

Proposal^[?] to change Government policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.

Old value:: The government determines which missionaries are permitted to visit on a person by person basis.

Current: The government has no policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.

Proposed: The government requires foreign missionaries to register with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date	19:26:38, January 25, 2009 CET
From	Anarchist Party of Lodamun
To	Debating the APL Religious reforms
Message	Article 1: No need to complicate. they register and it will be enough. surely the ministry of foreign affairs can deal with them. Article 2: In a secular nation, there is no reason to give religion a special status. they make money just like companies, maybe even more. donations howeer, should be overlooked, obviously. Article 3: Again, it's a secular nation with no official religion, and public officials should dress accordingly. any comments?

Date	21:29:42, January 25, 2009 CET
From	The Liberal Party
To	Debating the APL Religious reforms
Message	We agree with Article 2 and 3 but they have already been proposed in the Omnibus Bill about to get passed, so there's no need to re-introduce them. As far as Article 1 goes, we believe that authorization and security checks prior to the missionary is more beneficial for our national security.

Date	00:12:32, January 26, 2009 CET
From	Anarchist Party of Lodamun
To	Debating the APL Religious reforms
Message	my bad on 2 and 3. on 1, though... why would you only do that to missionaries? why not for everyone? of course, then you'd be regulating too much, and the whole country would be like Area 51. the ministry of foreign affairs can have their security checks and authorize them or not based on what they find out.

Date	00:40:11, January 26, 2009 CET
From	The Liberal Party
To	Debating the APL Religious reforms
Message	There are some missionaries that are considered radical or fanatics and they promote violence. We wouldn't want them to come to our country, correct?

Date	02:34:05, January 27, 2009 CET
From	Anarchist Party of Lodamun
To	Debating the APL Religious reforms
Message	of course, and the ministry of foreign affairs can deal with them. there's also non-missionaries who we don't want around here, but that doesn't mean we should make this universal for everyone.

Date	04:17:17, January 27, 2009 CET
From	The Liberal Party
To	Debating the APL Religious reforms
Message	If they present no threat to our nations, they will be allowed to enter the country with no problem whatsoever.

Date	18:22:59, January 27, 2009 CET
From	Anarchist Party of Lodamun
To	Debating the APL Religious reforms
Message	yes, but what's the point of having this check before they come here? why do they have this obligation and other foreigners don't? this is just discriminating.

Date	20:41:22, January 27, 2009 CET
From	The Liberal Party
To	Debating the APL Religious reforms
Message	Other foreigner that want to come to this country to work or do something other than visit have to obtain a visa. We even allow missionaries not to obtain a visa but their application is reviewed for possible threats to our nation.

Date	00:02:23, January 29, 2009 CET
From	Anarchist Party of Lodamun
To	Debating the APL Religious reforms
Message	that's the point, they're being discriminated against just because they're religious.

Date	03:04:28, January 29, 2009 CET
From	The Liberal Party
To	Debating the APL Religious reforms
Message	There is no such thing as discrimination when the security of our people is at risk.

Date	00:19:00, January 30, 2009 CET
From	Anarchist Party of Lodamun
To	Debating the APL Religious reforms
Message	well, that says it all about the liberal party.

Date	03:37:56, January 30, 2009 CET
From	The Liberal Party
To	Debating the APL Religious reforms
Message	The Liberal Party has always put national security first on its agenda. Nothing is more important to us than national security. That has always been known by everyone in this country.

Date	00:01:15, February 02, 2009 CET
From	Anarchist Party of Lodamun
To	Debating the APL Religious reforms
Message	same goes for fascists and their own security.

Vote

Seats

yes

Total Seats: 29

Total Seats: 71

abstain

Total Seats: 0

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