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Bill: A Stand Against Oppression
Details
Submitted by[?]: Quanzari Socialist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2714
Description[?]:
| It is oppressive and degrading to force our children to sing the national anthem at the beginning of every school day, and to sing it so often removes any significance it might have were it to be reserved for experiences that are somewhat less mundane. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Singing the national anthem in schools.
Old value:: Children are made to sing the national anthem at the commencement of school each day.
Current: Children are made to sing the national anthem at the commencement of school each day.
Proposed: Children are never made to sing the national anthem.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 07:26:42, February 18, 2009 CET | From | Quanzari Restorationists | To | Debating the A Stand Against Oppression |
| Message | Do you loathesome Marxists hate your mother country? |
| Date | 17:08:59, February 18, 2009 CET | From | Quanzari Socialist Party | To | Debating the A Stand Against Oppression |
| Message | Hate it? Hardly. How can you hate something that is such a superficial and obvious construct of a tradition of oppression that has lasted for millenia? At any rate, imagine what resentment and flippancy our young ones must foster in their hearts, when at the start of every school day they must sing their anthem. For 12 years straight, the anthem every single school day. The young among them cannot even know what they are singing, and certainly after five years of it, let alone twelve, they must not think much of the song. |
| Date | 17:13:41, February 18, 2009 CET | From | Quanzari Restorationists | To | Debating the A Stand Against Oppression |
| Message | Millenia? Methinks you should read a history book or two. Our new generations must be taught civics and appreciation for the Lordships and Monarchhy, for the ideal and reality that is our Royal Union. Marquis Herod Belisarius |
| Date | 18:06:49, February 18, 2009 CET | From | Quanzari Socialist Party | To | Debating the A Stand Against Oppression |
| Message | Oppression has existed in other places before it existed here. What use is a three-verse song in giving our children some sort of education in civics? Subservience to the monarchy it provides for, but is unquestioning obedience what we want in our next generation? How will Quanzar ever be a truly innovative power without a tradition of fostering critical thinking (and criticism of the government, no matter its leanings)? |
| Date | 22:21:18, February 18, 2009 CET | From | Quanzari Restorationists | To | Debating the A Stand Against Oppression |
| Message | The King rules by divine right. One cannot go against the will of God. Within the framework of protection, subjects of the crown enjoy freedom and plenty. They are not at all subject to Oppression and the Tyranny of the Mob or Low Men. |
| Date | 01:40:29, February 19, 2009 CET | From | Quanzari Socialist Party | To | Debating the A Stand Against Oppression |
| Message | Divine right? Within the framework of protection the subjects enjoy freedom and plenty? You nationalists are of the mistaken and outdated impression that a ruler's right to rule derives from a higher source and that the ruled have obligations to their ruler. On the contrary, a ruler's right to rule derives from the people, and should the people wish it their ruler should step down, lest he be overthrown and lose his life. |
| Date | 18:49:30, February 19, 2009 CET | From | Order of the Golden Crown | To | Debating the A Stand Against Oppression |
| Message | How did you liberals determine this "popular sovereignty?" Was it written somewhere in the universe, was it determined by science? No. It is merely the crazed shouting of the unwashed masses, whose insufferable greed has driven them to demand the keys to the kingdom. Divine right derives from the dictates of God, from the natural hierarchy that pervades this universe, not from the blather of dirty peasants and the petty bourgeois. |
| Date | 23:34:57, February 19, 2009 CET | From | Quanzari Socialist Party | To | Debating the A Stand Against Oppression |
| Message | The liberals and their bourgeois patrons can die in a fire unnoticed by the fire department their crusade for privatization has gutted. As for your divine right, we shall see how it gets along when the people realize the sham of their religion. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 4 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 97 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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