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Bill: Consular Reglament #01 - Recognition of the new Emperor
Details
Submitted by[?]: Federal Coalition
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2715
Description[?]:
| Emperor Henri I has passed away, it is now the responsibility of the Consular government, led by the honorable Gabriel W. Clarkson, to recognize Gustavus I as the new Emperor of the Imperial Throne. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The formal title of the Head of State.
Old value:: Son Excellency' Impérial ; s, Empereur Henri I, Vice-roi Impérial Napoleon Janse et le People' ; Consul de s
Current: His Royal Majesty, Leopold I, of the House of Orléans-Vasser, Prince of Tondelle, Prince of Lourenne, Duke of New Kreshar, Duke of Belfort, Head of the Order of the Silver Rooster, Defender of the People and the Constitution, Represented by:
Proposed: Son Excellence's Impériale, Empereur Gustavus I, Vice-roi Impérial Francis Janse et People' Consul de s
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 03:54:35, February 21, 2009 CET | From | Imperial Conservative Union (IA) | To | Debating the Consular Reglament #01 - Recognition of the new Emperor |
| Message | This is really an OOC Vote, so that we can keep things Realistic. Also, some of you may find this funny. Alduria is under the Luthori system of monarchy, with the monarch not being the HoS of the state by the game. However, Luthori is under the system named after the one I made while in Alduria, called the Alduria system or better known as the "." system. Kind of funny. |
| Date | 17:32:53, February 21, 2009 CET | From |  Parti Imperial du Peuple (IA) | To | Debating the Consular Reglament #01 - Recognition of the new Emperor |
| Message | OOO come on, at least play along. Henry is dead, and insted of being behind you could catch it up and go ahead and put Gustavus up there since he is Emperor. Insted of being like this and voting it down out of principle, why I said it was an ooc vote. You can be anti monarchist, but still want it to be realistic. Not my fault the game didn't come with a way better than this. |
| Date | 18:26:36, February 21, 2009 CET | From | Aldurian Green Party | To | Debating the Consular Reglament #01 - Recognition of the new Emperor |
| Message | Maybe if we have to have a monarch, we'd prefer a dead monarch. |
| Date | 19:37:32, February 21, 2009 CET | From | Parti Imperial du Peuple (IA) | To | Debating the Consular Reglament #01 - Recognition of the new Emperor |
| Message | See, this is why I don't get you. We honor our word. We come to middle when we did not have to and allowed for the HoS to be elected. All we asked is that the monarch be allowed to have his throne, with no powers, and be allowed to be there for those that wanted him to be. Now we can't change it even under the normal system, so all we ask is that you be Realistic and just change it. Gustavus is already Emperor, that has already happened, so the Emperor is Gustavus right now as we speak, the only thing you are doing is making it harder for us to keep tract and at the same time make it realistically pratical since in RL this would not have to happen, for he would just be monarch. But because this is a game we have to do it this way. Why be a dick and just make it harder and quiet frankly irriating for those trying to keep it real. |
| Date | 22:52:03, February 21, 2009 CET | From | Aldurian Green Party | To | Debating the Consular Reglament #01 - Recognition of the new Emperor |
| Message | Like the PDP said in the luthori version of this our no vote represents our IC opposition to this monarchy. When the confederation had power you roleplayed it as a false government even though it was elected, I feel it is fair if I roleplay the imperials as a foreign occupation of Alduria. |
| Date | 02:16:51, February 22, 2009 CET | From | Radical-Revolutionary Party | To | Debating the Consular Reglament #01 - Recognition of the new Emperor |
| Message | We oppose any government acknowledgment of the Emperor, in any form whatsoever. While we oppose the institution of the Emperor, to vote either way on this proposal would be to implicitly endorse its association with Alduria. Thus, we will Abstain. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 137 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 104 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 260 |
| Random fact: Bill descriptions must be in English, or at least include a full English translation. Bill titles may appear in a language that is appropriate to the nation and are not required to be translated into English. |
| Random quote: "The more you observe politics, the more you've got to admit that each party is worse than the other." - Will Rogers |