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Bill: Military Reform: Land Mines & Bio-Chemical Weaponry

Details

Submitted by[?]: Socialist Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: October 2719

Description[?]:

The Libertarian Socialist Party of Darnussia believes that the current laws regarding the military's use of several different types of weaponry; chemical and biological. The LSPD also deplores the current use of land mines by the army due to indiscriminate nature of the damage they cause, and their lasting impact on civilian lives after the cessation of conflict. In line with the LSPD's belief that all of the above types of weapon are unacceptable for use by any modern nation and that defensive war or peacekeeping actions in co-operation with the international community, are the only valid use of the military, the following proposals are made:

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date20:47:02, February 26, 2009 CET
FromDarnussian Nationalist Party
ToDebating the Military Reform: Land Mines & Bio-Chemical Weaponry
MessageDo you wish to make us a laughing stock? Do you actively seek to weaken our nation? If anything the military should be given more rights and funding, not less. To even think that such a proposal has come about is beyond comprehension!

Date21:59:59, February 26, 2009 CET
FromSocialist Party
ToDebating the Military Reform: Land Mines & Bio-Chemical Weaponry
MessageContrary to the views of the Darnussian Nationalist Party, we in the LSPD believe that it is the current policies of Darnussia which weaken our moral strength as a nation. We wish to make Darnussia a peaceful nation whose first recourse is not to violence but to diplomacy; nuclear weapons and the concept of MAD bring the world closer to the point of destruction. The LSPD believes that it is the type of insane right wing ideologies espoused by the likes of the Darnussian Nationalist Party which undermine Darnussia's reputation in the international community, not the enlightened pacifism of the Libertarian Socialists.

Date22:53:34, February 26, 2009 CET
FromLiberal-Democratic Party
ToDebating the Military Reform: Land Mines & Bio-Chemical Weaponry
MessageOur party wholeheartedly supports the first three proposals of this bill. However, we believe that nuclear weapons should be held as a deterrent- there are far too many rogue nations that may be in pursuit of such technology that we cannot realistically expect any non-proliferation treaty to hold any water. As such, this current bill will not get a "YAY" vote from us. However, an amended bill would certainly earn a positive vote.

Date00:35:54, February 27, 2009 CET
FromSocialist Party
ToDebating the Military Reform: Land Mines & Bio-Chemical Weaponry
MessageIn light of the reasoned opposition of the LDP the LSPD is happy to create a second bill to deal with the issue of nuclear weaponry and to modify the title and contents of this current piece of legislation.

Date19:25:29, February 27, 2009 CET
FromSurprise Party
ToDebating the Military Reform: Land Mines & Bio-Chemical Weaponry
MessageSince the Surprise Party still has an absolute majority, this bill is going nowhere.

It is the position of the Surprise Party that all options must be on the table as a deterrent to rogue nations. Darnussia is not an aggressive nation - indeed, it has never fought a war of aggression in its entire long history, as far as I am aware. It has, however, been invaded, and suffered through civil war, both multiple times. Maintaining a stockpile of WMD makes it far less likely that we will be attacked from abroad or within.

Now, the minute the DNP earns the Presidency (heaven forbid), we'll switch positions, for it is better to suffer invasion than to allow a madman access to these sorts of weapons.

Date03:58:05, March 01, 2009 CET
FromSurprise Party
ToDebating the Military Reform: Land Mines & Bio-Chemical Weaponry
MessageEither way, you need to send this to a vote soon, so it can impact on your visibility

Date12:52:44, March 01, 2009 CET
FromSocialist Party
ToDebating the Military Reform: Land Mines & Bio-Chemical Weaponry
MessageAlthough we disagree with the Surpise party's view on the necessity of this type of weaponry, we are pleased to note your position would change if the raving nationalist party came to power.

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