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Bill: Armed Forces Act 2125
Details
Submitted by[?]: Luthori Green Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2126
Description[?]:
| This bill will transform our military, from something to be ashamed of, to something to be proud of. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Military stance on homosexuality.
Old value:: Open homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
Current: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Proposed: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Nation's policy with regards to an intelligence agency.
Old value:: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Current: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Proposed: The nation has an intelligence agency, but it is limited to counter-intelligence and surveillance of other countries.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on the separation of the police and the military.
Old value:: A civilian police force is in place, backed up by the military.
Current: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Proposed: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: All adults upon completion of schooling can be required in times of war to serve a term in the military.
Current: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Proposed: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve a term of civilian national service.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of nuclear weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in warfare for any reason.
Current: The nation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in warfare for any reason.
Proposed: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:28:14, October 13, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Armed Forces Act 2125 |
| Message | This will never pass! Articles III and IV might have stood a chance. Article I would be going back on an agreed compromise. Do you want to push us back to the extreme where we will ban queers altogether? |
| Date | 14:30:07, October 13, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Armed Forces Act 2125 |
| Message | I never agreed on that "compromise." |
| Date | 14:31:36, October 13, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Armed Forces Act 2125 |
| Message | If you choose to return to oppositional politics then we will ban queers in all walks of life. |
| Date | 14:32:41, October 13, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Armed Forces Act 2125 |
| Message | Try it. |
| Date | 15:03:35, October 13, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the Armed Forces Act 2125 |
| Message | We agree with all but the last two (who didn't see that coming?) |
| Date | 15:08:48, October 13, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Armed Forces Act 2125 |
| Message | If I can't get the votes for the bill as is, I'd take off the nuclear WMD proposals (as much as it pains me to do so) since the other proposals are important. |
| Date | 17:44:19, October 13, 2005 CET | From | Seosavists Republican party | To | Debating the Armed Forces Act 2125 |
| Message | yes. |
| Date | 14:12:40, October 14, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Armed Forces Act 2125 |
| Message | The RzP supports Article V? |
| Date | 14:59:46, October 14, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Armed Forces Act 2125 |
| Message | First strike capability is never needed. |
| Date | 15:03:59, October 14, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Armed Forces Act 2125 |
| Message | Of course it is, you shellshocked fool! It destroys the deterrence against overwhelming conventional, chemical or biological attack if we can't use our nuclear weaponry until the enemy goes nuclear first. Far too specific. |
| Date | 15:09:52, October 14, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Armed Forces Act 2125 |
| Message | Then why can so many nations survive without them? |
| Date | 23:40:39, October 14, 2005 CET | From | United Conservative Party | To | Debating the Armed Forces Act 2125 |
| Message | An utter disgrace. You know it makes no sense! |
| Date | 03:31:39, October 15, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Armed Forces Act 2125 |
| Message | Then explain why this is going to pass? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 338 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 412 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: When elections in a country are held, all bills in the voting phase are reset to the debate phase. |
| Random quote: "We here thank those in Deltaria who put [Zardic spy Mona Rivet] to justice in the most humane way possible. With bullets." - Sergio Rodriguez, former Egelian journalist |