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Bill: Schools Education and Discipline Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Democratic Labour Union

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: August 2128

Description[?]:

The Democratic Labour Union is alarmed at the fact education for those 16 or under is not currently compulsory. Education above all is the key to allowing growth of a prosperous and productive citizenry. In addition it empowers individuals to make more informed choices and encourage greater understanding of the world they live in. We thus propose to make education mandatory for all those 16 or under.

Considering the above we feel we should also address how discipline is regulated within our schools, which at the moment is left to individual schools to decide. In our humble opinion the government must in the main provide schools with guidelines as to what is acceptable or not, thus attempting to nullify any cases of potential abuse. We therefore propose in tandem with make education compulsory, teachers be forbidden from direct discipline, but other forms of non-contact discipline remain available such as detention, expulsion etc.

We hope our esteemed parliamentary members will see the value in this bill and look forward to debating the issue with them.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date18:23:35, October 13, 2005 CET
From Jakanian Conservative Party
ToDebating the Schools Education and Discipline Act
Messagemaking education cumpulsory lessens the level of education taking place.
kids really don't care about detentions, suspensions etc. and Expulsions rarely happen.
the FRP is going to vote against this(also, voting will reset with the election)

Date18:49:04, October 13, 2005 CET
From Jakanian Liberal Socialists
ToDebating the Schools Education and Discipline Act
MessageThe JLSP debated making education compulsary, but decided that while the government should encourage education, and ensure it is freely available to all, it should not force it upon anyone.

An intelligent and free thinking population would benefit all of Jakania, but it is not the government's place to say 'this is the best way to raise your kids' to parents, nor 'this is the best use of your time' to children. We should encourage schooling but recognise that there are alternate pathways.

Article 2, the JLSP is leaning towards supporting. At one time we considered whether it should be down to parental consent or judgement, but we've now realised that kids have the same basic rights of protection as adults, and physical punishment of pain is not acceptable in either case. We would support article 2.

Date19:24:32, October 13, 2005 CET
From Jakanian Conservative Party
ToDebating the Schools Education and Discipline Act
MessageThose who do not want to learn should not hold back the education of those who do desire to learn.

Date20:15:24, October 13, 2005 CET
From Democratic Labour Union
ToDebating the Schools Education and Discipline Act
MessageFirstly thank you to all those members who have commented, the DLU welcomes debate and the thoughts of our colleagues. Secondly, thank you to the JLSP for their consideration of Article two.

Since most of the opposition is in fact for Article one we shall concentrate on this area. We concur with the JLSP that creating a free thinking society is vital, though that society can only be created with educated free thinking people. This is not a matter of enforcement or reduction of parent’s rights, but rather of assurance that every child in Jakania is given the opportunity to free their mind. We are concerned with a non compulsory approach some parents will choose not to school their children and thus placing those individuals at a considerable disadvantage in terms of future employment, the ability to reason with clarity and indeed the ability to formulate cohesive self opinion. An uneducated individual is doomed to a life of ignorance and this we feel is failure both of government and society.

Furthermore a non-compulsory system, will inevitable lead to a two tiered society where those who are educated empowered to gain status and privilege because they have been given the tools to communicate and use their mind. On the other hand those with little education despite wanting to will not be able to contribute similarly since the tools from early education were denied. In the modern world the ability to read and write is absolutely essential and in our humble opinion one of the main duties of government to ensure.

Date22:56:03, October 13, 2005 CET
From Islamic Nationalist Front
ToDebating the Schools Education and Discipline Act
MessageIn an industrial, democratic nation, the two tiered society the DLU refers to is not a result of non-compulsory education, but simply cultural values and parenting. If children are forced to attend school, yet lack the motivation to learn because their parents failed to instill it in them, they will perform poorly and, consequently, be at a disadvantage in terms of future employment regardless. When children do not benefit from "free" education, they are only an additional burden on taxpayers. The Democratic Labour Union labours under the misconception that individuals who make a poor choice in the past are inevitably doomed to a tragic future. Take for example a high school graduate who chooses not to go to college, or perhaps has not the means to do so. That young adult will obviously be limited in the type of employment he can attain. However, should he decide he wants to earn a higher income, he can save up for school for several years and then attend college. The same can be said for adults who would be limited because they did not go to public school when they were younger. Of course, there are also charities and non-profits for the severely disadvantaged.

OOC: Sorry for the pun. Also, congrats on your first bill proposal :D

Date00:52:15, October 14, 2005 CET
From Nudist Party of United Jakania
ToDebating the Schools Education and Discipline Act
MessageYeah, yeah...go to school, stay off drugs.

Date03:03:15, October 14, 2005 CET
From Islamic Nationalist Front
ToDebating the Schools Education and Discipline Act
MessageOOC: High enthusiasm towards parents there, NP :/

Date12:24:41, October 14, 2005 CET
From Democratic Labour Union
ToDebating the Schools Education and Discipline Act
MessageOOC: No problem and thanks!

IC:
Honourable colleagues before we take this debate towards the more subjective areas of cultural identity, surely having a non-compulsory system places children who have no voice other than their parents at a distinct disadvantage. Just because a parent has the right to make decisions for a child, it simply does not follow that they will make the right choice for the child in every case. By making schooling compulsory we ensure those who do not have voice is provided the education they need until such a time they themselves can choose not to do so or continue.

In an industrial democratic nation it is fundamentally important our citizens can read, write and add up at the very least. Without such basic skills children are placed at a distinct disadvantage as they progress to adulthood. Surely what is important here is to provide equity and opportunity to all children.

Finally to address the point made by the JLP with regard to children who do not benefit from education being a burden on the taxpayer. We must respectfully disagree since if children are not benefiting from education then we the government are failing them in providing adequately for their needs. No child is a burden on our society they are the key to our future prosperity and thus should be invested in.

Date17:34:18, October 18, 2005 CET
From Democratic Labour Union
ToDebating the Schools Education and Discipline Act
MessageIn order to move the debate forward the DLU have taken to revise Article so it may include home schooling, however we maintain that compulsory education is necessarily and to the greater benefit for our nation as a whole.

Date17:36:16, October 18, 2005 CET
From Democratic Labour Union
ToDebating the Schools Education and Discipline Act
MessageOOC:
Pardon that should read Article one and necessarily should read necessary!! I will refrain from typing responses in a hurry in future. :)

Date15:59:49, October 20, 2005 CET
From Jakanian Liberal Socialists
ToDebating the Schools Education and Discipline Act
MessageFor the record, the JLSP is not in total agreement with article 1, but homeschooling is a compromise we're willing to agree to.

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