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Bill: Change
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Workers
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2732
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The nation's defence industry.
Old value:: The state owns national defence industries but these exist alongside privately owned defence industries.
Current: The state owns all defence industries.
Proposed: The state owns all defence industries.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards the use of land mines by the army.
Old value:: The Government leaves this to the army to decide upon.
Current: The use of land mines is allowed.
Proposed: The use of land mines is allowed but restricted.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve a term of civilian national service.
Current: There shall be no mandatory military or civilian national service.
Proposed: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The policy with respect to nuclear weaponry.
Old value:: The nation shall never produce or store nuclear weaponry for military purposes. Research and development of the technology is permitted.
Current: The nation reserves the right to develop, produce and store nuclear arms.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to develop, produce and store nuclear arms.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding the treatment of prisoners of war.
Old value:: Prisoners of war are treated according to the national laws of the captor power.
Current: Prisoners of war must be treated well, according to internationally-accepted standards.
Proposed: Prisoners of war may be mistreated without legal sanction.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:03:22, March 26, 2009 CET | From | The Likatonian Imperium party | To | Debating the Change |
| Message | We cannot agree with articles 3 and 5. |
| Date | 19:42:20, March 26, 2009 CET | From | Liberal Conservatists | To | Debating the Change |
| Message | We agree with Imperium Party. |
| Date | 20:36:52, March 26, 2009 CET | From | Neo Kanist Rite Party of Sorbanika | To | Debating the Change |
| Message | We don't agree with article 1, as we have always said we believe that competition is good in this area of business which is why we believe private defence companies should exist, obviously we believe that there should be regulations on arms deals etc. Article 2 sounds ok. Article 3 is in our opinion a better law than we currently have, we have always supported military national service but we are beginning to understand that it is unfair to force everybody to partake in something which may not be in line with their conscience. Article 4 we agree with, we believe that this nation should have a nuclear capability to act as a deterrant. We do not agree with article 5, we believe that all prisoners of war should be treated fairly until their date of release or charge. Overall we probably wouldn't vote for this law, mainly because of the first and last articles |
| Date | 20:43:26, March 26, 2009 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Change |
| Message | We oppose the nuclear armament option. We oppose the military service option. We like the defence industry proposal, and wish it had been presented on it's own. We oppose the POW option. We support the intent of the landmine article, but feel it doesn't go far enough. On balance, we are going to have to hold back on supporting. There are issues here we could have voted for, but they are outnumbered by issues we must oppose. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 218 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 532 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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