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Bill: King's Loyal President
Details
Submitted by[?]: Pontesian Royalist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2736
Description[?]:
| The king needs help. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Structure of the executive branch.
Old value:: The Head of State is hereditary and symbolic; the Head of Government chairs the cabinet.
Current: The Head of State and Head of Government are two separate officials.
Proposed: The Head of State and Head of Government are two separate officials.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The formal title of the Head of State.
Old value:: His Imperial Excellency, Emperor Charles I, Emperor of the Pontesian Dynastic Empire, King of Gran Tadraki and other Pontesian Dominions, Commander-in-Chief of the Pontesian Armed Forces, and Defender of the Faith, etc
Current: Պոնտեսիի ադմինիստրատոր (Administrator of Pontesi)
Proposed: His Imperial Excellency, Emperor Charles I, Emperor of the Pontesian Dynastic Empire, King of Gran Tadraki and other Pontesian Dominions, Commander-in-Chief of the Pontesian Armed Forces, and Defender of the Faith, etc and his loyal President
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:29:30, April 04, 2009 CET | From |  Muslim Association of Pontesi | To | Debating the King's Loyal President |
| Message | OOC: I don't think you can have a President and a King. You would need somebody to perform the Kings duties for him, a President typically replaces a Monarch. |
| Date | 12:38:53, April 04, 2009 CET | From | Pontesian Royalist Party | To | Debating the King's Loyal President |
| Message | OOC: What do you recommend? |
| Date | 12:57:49, April 04, 2009 CET | From | Muslim Association of Pontesi | To | Debating the King's Loyal President |
| Message | OOC: Viceroy I think gets used most often. You could also have Governor General (as is used in Canada and Australia), Lord Lieutenant was used in Ireland, but I'm not sure if that would make sense in all cases. General Supervisor-Protector was used in Imperial China, but generally its just translated Governor General as well. IC: We remain to be convinced that a representative of the King is neccessary. We believe continuing to vest power in the Grand-Vizier General may be a better situation. |
| Date | 16:00:05, April 04, 2009 CET | From | Nrzi Prta (Democratic Party) | To | Debating the King's Loyal President |
| Message | We see no reason to used a direct democracy for the position of head of government and believe that the current representative democracy with the Grand-Vizier General as head of government is the best way. Also as the "Emperor" is a constitutional head of state that does not take any part in the government, we see no needs to give him "help" and found this move to be unnecessary. We are concerned that this could be a first step in a move to destroy the monarchy of Pontesi and warn Democratic Socialist Party of Beiteynu not to touch them. |
| Date | 18:00:06, April 04, 2009 CET | From | Democratic Marxist Party (BIC) | To | Debating the King's Loyal President |
| Message | If the Emperor does not take any part in government then what productive labor is he putting into the country? This right here proves his uselessness, Down with the Emperor!! Up with Marx!!! |
| Date | 01:20:02, April 05, 2009 CET | From | Pontesian Royalist Party | To | Debating the King's Loyal President |
| Message | We are not Beiteynu, not one member of our local party is from Beiteynu. Our new leader is 100% Pontesian and of the Anglican Church. Our old one was Barmenian. We agree with the DMP. Up with Marxist-Lennonism! OOC: That was not a misspelling. |
| Date | 04:12:28, April 07, 2011 CET | From | The English Monarchist Party | To | Debating the King's Loyal President |
| Message | We need absolute Monarchy. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 208 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 192 |
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