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Bill: Balanced Budget Amendment

Details

Submitted by[?]: People's Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: May 2044

Description[?]:

This bill would seek to fix government fiscal policy to maintain a balanced budget. The governemnt shall not be allowed to hold more than 2% of revenues as debt at any given time.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date02:27:44, April 27, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Party
ToDebating the Balanced Budget Amendment
MessageYou are voting on whether we shall roleplay this item of fiscal policy. If passed, you will be bound to explain you propose to pay for all spending including tax cuts or social entitlements.

Date02:28:31, April 27, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Party
ToDebating the Balanced Budget Amendment
MessageSorry - it should read "HOW you propose to pay..."

Date10:12:24, April 27, 2005 CET
From
ToDebating the Balanced Budget Amendment
MessageWe don't believe that such a figure is sustainable over a long period of time., particularly during a recession.

Date12:41:15, April 27, 2005 CET
From
ToDebating the Balanced Budget Amendment
Message2% does seem low.

Date18:50:22, April 27, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Party
ToDebating the Balanced Budget Amendment
MessageThis is no real problem. Once we set aside a rainy day fund, that can be tapped into during a recession. Otherwise taxes can be raised or spending cut. However, I am open to other suggestions as well.

Date01:53:02, April 28, 2005 CET
FromNational Centrist Party
ToDebating the Balanced Budget Amendment
MessageThis should definitely be set into play. The problem, of course, is that such a policy is militanty anti-socialist. That doesn't mean social programs can't be enacted, but it means they must be in moderation and watched carefully to maintain efficiency and prevent corruption - perfect.

Date02:16:35, April 28, 2005 CET
From
ToDebating the Balanced Budget Amendment
MessageIt also means that a large military is unsustainable throught a whole economic cycle.

Date02:16:43, April 28, 2005 CET
From
ToDebating the Balanced Budget Amendment
Message*throughout

Date04:13:22, April 28, 2005 CET
FromProletariat Revolution Party
ToDebating the Balanced Budget Amendment
MessageOh, so, anything non-social won't have to be explained? Isn't that just convenient...

Date09:08:04, April 28, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Party
ToDebating the Balanced Budget Amendment
MessageNo any type of fiscal change -tax cuts...or spending bills would have to be explained - in the sense of where the money would come from....so it not an anti left bill or anti right bill...

Date12:51:35, April 28, 2005 CET
FromRight Wing Liberals Party
ToDebating the Balanced Budget Amendment
Message?

Date16:17:07, April 28, 2005 CET
FromNational Centrist Party
ToDebating the Balanced Budget Amendment
MessageWelfare would be untenable. Military expenses would be unexplainable. Corporate welfare would look even stupider than it already does. We NEED this in place.

Date17:17:25, April 28, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Party
ToDebating the Balanced Budget Amendment
MessageI'm suprised I thought this bill would have more support- it isn't biased against anybody in particular.

Date17:20:31, April 28, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Party
ToDebating the Balanced Budget Amendment
MessageWell all you'll have to say is hey i'm going to tax more for such and such a thing...or i'm going to borrow to fund tax cuts...and then we'll vote on whether we will raise the finances...or not.

Date20:00:28, April 28, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Party
ToDebating the Balanced Budget Amendment
MessageRWL- whats your question? anything i should address?

Date20:45:34, April 28, 2005 CET
FromNational Centrist Party
ToDebating the Balanced Budget Amendment
MessageWhy is there such widespread dislike of this bill? All it assures is that our government won't kill itself with debt like many do. There's no point in ANY program if it can't be funded properly.

Date21:41:31, April 28, 2005 CET
From
ToDebating the Balanced Budget Amendment
MessageWe feel that we should not tie future governments into a very tight monetarist policy that would preclude use of public funds during a recesion or disaster. Also we feel that 2% is an unachievable target.

Date22:22:35, April 28, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Party
ToDebating the Balanced Budget Amendment
MessageLike I said we can leave enough room by creating a separate area for discretionary spending. That can be used in short term fiscal policy.

Date00:45:54, April 29, 2005 CET
FromNational Centrist Party
ToDebating the Balanced Budget Amendment
MessageWhy should a government ever run into debt? We shouldn't aim for 2% debt, we should aim to be running surplus constantly - THAT would give even more room for maneuvering in disasters and recessions.

Date08:57:06, April 29, 2005 CET
From
ToDebating the Balanced Budget Amendment
MessageSometimes debt is used as a way of carrying an economy through a recession, or to pay for large militaries or simply because the economy shrinks faster than government spending.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 88

no
    

Total Seats: 79

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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