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Bill: Socialism Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Nationalist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2127
Description[?]:
| We still feel that socialism is best for the nation, the state must owns the means of production, the free market is harmful to the poor and to our nation |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Tax percentage of the profit made by corporations.
Old value:: 30
Current: 15
Proposed: 60
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on industry and subsidies to industrial operations.
Old value:: The government subsidizes private enterprises that face bankruptcy.
Current: The government acts as an investor of last resort, by nationalizing failing industries that provide vital goods or services.
Proposed: Certain industries are owned by the state, all others are under private ownership.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on minimum wage regulation.
Old value:: There is no provision for a minimum wage.
Current: There is no provision for a minimum wage.
Proposed: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a single full time worker on it can adequately subsist.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:20:11, October 17, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party for Equality | To | Debating the Socialism Bill |
| Message | we agree wholeheartedly with article three, but cannot support this bill as we find the first two totally unacceptable. |
| Date | 18:42:00, October 18, 2005 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Socialism Bill |
| Message | Impressive - I've never seen 500 to 0 on a vote before. |
| Date | 10:00:53, October 19, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Socialism Bill |
| Message | There really are no socialists in this nation? |
| Date | 11:42:19, October 19, 2005 CET | From | Front for State Prosperity | To | Debating the Socialism Bill |
| Message | NP: You're the only established socialist party. Even the LPE is economically moderate. You actually have a benefit from that. You'll appeal strongly to socialistic citizens. Please don't get discouraged. |
| Date | 20:10:09, October 19, 2005 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Socialism Bill |
| Message | Response to the Nationalist Party. OOC: The AAP could be considered socialist-leaning... as they are designed as a collective of factions, rather than a cohesive whole. However, the AAP are RATIONAL socialists... and RATIONAL libertarians, if it comes to that. That means we vote pragmatically... and often 'moderately'. Regarding the bill you proposed... the AAP view is that we COULD support Article 1, and we DO support Article 3... but we consider Article 2 to be retrogressive - since market forces ALREADY 'nationalise' (to a limited extent) industries that are important and of impaired productivity. As the AAP sees it - why nationalise an industry that is already perfectly functional? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 500 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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