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Bill: Conscription Elimination Act 2749
Details
Submitted by[?]: Liberal Democrat Party (ALC)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2751
Description[?]:
| The state should not force civilians to serve in the military after leaving education this will only lead to high desertion rates an unhappy population. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Current: All adults upon completion of schooling can be required in times of war to serve a term in the military.
Proposed: There shall be no mandatory military or civilian national service.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 06:56:40, May 02, 2009 CET | From | Genuine Progress Alliance | To | Debating the Conscription Elimination Act 2749 |
| Message | From Karl Berton Harris, Jr., Member of Parliament: I don't think this changes anything at all, substantially speaking. In the current law, one is given the OPTION to choose military service or civilian service. The proposal simply narrows it down to civilian service. Even if the proposal doesn't pass, civilians will still be forced to do civilian service if they wish to do so. |
| Date | 11:01:34, May 02, 2009 CET | From | Liberal Democrat Party (ALC) | To | Debating the Conscription Elimination Act 2749 |
| Message | I agree with your criticism so i have amended the proposal accordingly. |
| Date | 12:14:20, May 02, 2009 CET | From | Centre Democrats | To | Debating the Conscription Elimination Act 2749 |
| Message | Conscription is a good thing. A term in military or civilian national service is also a part of education in people's life. They learn to respect their country, to respect and obey aothority and to have discipline . |
| Date | 01:38:14, May 03, 2009 CET | From | Communist Party of Aloria | To | Debating the Conscription Elimination Act 2749 |
| Message | We only support the draft in times of war. |
| Date | 05:43:01, May 03, 2009 CET | From | Genuine Progress Alliance | To | Debating the Conscription Elimination Act 2749 |
| Message | When one considers that tuition fees for higher education in Aloria is funded by the government, it would make perfect sense to have the students perform civilian or military service in return for the free education. Unless if we change the law on tuition fees for higher education, we cannot agree with the proposal at this point. |
| Date | 11:45:59, May 03, 2009 CET | From | Liberal Democrat Party (ALC) | To | Debating the Conscription Elimination Act 2749 |
| Message | I believe the government may encourage it's citizens to join the military/civil service but i believe that is where the government's power should end. In regards to the Centre Democrat's point the LDs believe that although all citizenry should respect their country in a democracy it is a citizens job to question and hold the authorities to account. I am willing to negociate the bill in times of war. In regards to the GPA's point it is important to remember that not just students going into higher education will be drafted and by forcing potential students to work in return for their education that calls into question just how "free" thier education is. I hope this has addressed both the CDs and GPA's worries. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 127 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 148 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 181 |
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