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Bill: Foresty Revision Act of 2751
Details
Submitted by[?]: Konstitutionelle Monarchie Partei
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes to change the allocation of funds in the budget. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2752
Description[?]:
| The Foresty Revision Act of 2751 Sets Forth to the Imperial Diet; 1) Mandated by this Act, all local governments in the Imperial Crownlands of Greater Hulstria, upon passing of this bill, will be required to operate their own foresty management department; local governments can if they choose so can operate jointly-managed foresty departments with other local governments in their vicinity. 2) Local governments, upon passing of this bill, will have the right to contract work to independent foresty companies if they choose so. 3) The Foresty Revision Act of 2751 will officialy set up individual Crownland Foresty Agencies that will be in charge of providing oversight to make sure laws are being followed, fund local foresty departments, and give resources to local governments in need. 4) Crownland Foresty Agencies will be under the Ministry of Environment and Tourism; the Ministry of E&T will have the power to appoint Crownland Foresty Directors to lead their respective agencies. Also outlined in this Act, the Fascist Authority Party is proposing that we make amends to the current budget, and make a 2.5 billion crown increase in the Environment & Tourism Ministry so that it may properly equip the Crownland Foresty Agencies to provide local governments in jump-starting their foresty programs/departments. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Forest management.
Old value:: Local governments may set up forestry agencies. Where they do not, forestry is on a commercial basis.
Current: There is a national agency which owns and manages all forest land.
Proposed: Local governments are required to operate forestry agencies, which own and manage all forest land.
Article 2
| Ministry | Current Budget | Old Budget | Propesed Budget |
| Head of Government | 2,000,000,000 HCR | 80,000 HCR | 80,000 HCR |
| Foreign Affairs | 12,500,000,000 HCR | 500,000,000 HCR | 500,000,000 HCR |
| Internal Affairs | 35,000,000,000 HCR | 165,000,000,000 HCR | 165,000,000,000 HCR |
| Finance | 10,000,000,000 HCR | 50,000,000 HCR | 50,000,000 HCR |
| Defence | 80,000,000,000 HCR | 72,500,000,000 HCR | 72,500,000,000 HCR |
| Justice | 12,500,000,000 HCR | 70,000,000,000 HCR | 70,000,000,000 HCR |
| Infrastructure and Transport | 35,000,000,000 HCR | 152,500,000,000 HCR | 152,500,000,000 HCR |
| Health and Social Services | 50,000,000,000 HCR | 165,000,000,000 HCR | 165,000,000,000 HCR |
| Education and Culture | 40,000,000,000 HCR | 380,000,000,000 HCR | 380,000,000,000 HCR |
| Science and Technology | 25,000,000,000 HCR | 50,000,000,000 HCR | 50,000,000,000 HCR |
| Food and Agriculture | 15,000,000,000 HCR | 54,000,000,000 HCR | 54,000,000,000 HCR |
| Environment and Tourism | 15,000,000,000 HCR | 18,000,000,000 HCR | 20,500,000,000 HCR |
| Trade and Industry | 25,000,000,000 HCR | 30,000,000,000 HCR | 30,000,000,000 HCR |
| Total | 357,000,000,000 HCR | 1,157,550,080,000 HCR | 1,160,050,080,000 HCR |
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:40:04, May 05, 2009 CET | From |  Liberaldemokratische Allianz | To | Debating the Foresty Revision Act of 2751 |
| Message | Why does E&T need increased funding? |
| Date | 21:50:08, May 05, 2009 CET | From | Konstitutionelle Monarchie Partei | To | Debating the Foresty Revision Act of 2751 |
| Message | Read the description, I took a page out of you're book. |
| Date | 21:53:51, May 05, 2009 CET | From | Konstitutionelle Monarchie Partei | To | Debating the Foresty Revision Act of 2751 |
| Message | What I'm proposing is instead of creating a massive, centralised Foresty Agency, that we instead create local, Crownland Foresty Agencies and give local governments more power in foresty management. Since the Environment & Tourist Ministry doesn't get all that notice or has many duties, I think its only fair we delegate the oversight of these Crownland Agencies, give it more a purpose. |
| Date | 22:00:58, May 05, 2009 CET | From | Liberaldemokratische Allianz | To | Debating the Foresty Revision Act of 2751 |
| Message | This violates the current law. |
| Date | 22:04:28, May 05, 2009 CET | From | Liberaldemokratische Allianz | To | Debating the Foresty Revision Act of 2751 |
| Message | As of the Forestry Bill of 2749, "Local governments may set up forestry agencies. Where they do not, forestry is on a commercial basis." Article 1 of this bill directly violates that law. Even if passed, this Act would be illegal and unenforceable. |
| Date | 22:05:07, May 05, 2009 CET | From | Konstitutionelle Monarchie Partei | To | Debating the Foresty Revision Act of 2751 |
| Message | How is this violating? |
| Date | 22:06:09, May 05, 2009 CET | From | Konstitutionelle Monarchie Partei | To | Debating the Foresty Revision Act of 2751 |
| Message | Article 1 is the same as "Local governments are required to operate forestry agencies, which own and manage all forest land", just worded differently. |
| Date | 22:08:42, May 05, 2009 CET | From | Liberaldemokratische Allianz | To | Debating the Foresty Revision Act of 2751 |
| Message | And the current law isn't "Local governments are required to operate forestry agencies, which own and manage all forest land", it is "Local governments may set up forestry agencies. Where they do not, forestry is on a commercial basis." |
| Date | 22:12:24, May 05, 2009 CET | From | Konstitutionelle Monarchie Partei | To | Debating the Foresty Revision Act of 2751 |
| Message | Obviously the current law isn't "Local governments are required to operate forestry agencies, which own and manage all forest land", thus me proposing to change it to that, do you see the "Forest Management" proposal? I don't understand what you're getting at. Article 1 just reiterates the proposed law; "upon passing of this bill, this Act will become law". This isn't violating anything. |
| Date | 01:32:15, May 07, 2009 CET | From | Konstitutionelle Monarchie Partei | To | Debating the Foresty Revision Act of 2751 |
| Message | Alright so this law if passed will give the powers to local government to operate foresty management departments and outlined in the description, I included that they may also jointly-operate with other local governments if need too (small towns mostly); they could also contract foresty companies to do their work. Also, I thought it would be cool to create Crownland Foresty Agencies rather than leaving it to a one, central agency; it would give the Environment * Tourism Ministry a bit more purpose. Its not that not only the ET Ministry is poorly funded but has minimal or no jobs, the KHP or anyone who will fill that Ministry in the future deserves to have a role like everyone else. I'm also proposing we increase the ET budget by a mere 2.5 billion dollars. Comparing this increase to other Ministries, this is nothing, and thanks to sustainable GDP growth, that 2.5 billion dollars will come back to us by 2755. |
| Date | 00:25:18, May 08, 2009 CET | From | Konstitutionelle Monarchie Partei | To | Debating the Foresty Revision Act of 2751 |
| Message | And the CLA objects. Why am I not surprised. |
| Date | 05:19:39, May 08, 2009 CET | From | Liberaldemokratische Allianz | To | Debating the Foresty Revision Act of 2751 |
| Message | The FAP shouldn't be surprised that we object especially since we directly stated that we did not support this law. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 286 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 359 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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