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Bill: Hoy nation for a holy state
Details
Submitted by[?]: Am Echad, Pays Libre
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2761
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy toward marriage.
Old value:: The government allows all consenting adults to obtain civil marriage contracts.
Current: The government allows all consenting adults to obtain civil marriage contracts.
Proposed: The government only recognises civil marriages between a man and a woman.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to polygamy.
Old value:: Polygamous marriages are accorded equal recognition to monogamous marriages.
Current: Local governments establish policies on polygamy.
Proposed: The government does not recognise polygamous relationships.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 02:22:45, May 23, 2009 CET | From | Bismarckian National Resistance (BNR) | To | Debating the Hoy nation for a holy state |
| Message | I understand the fact and agree that polygamous and homosexual marriages should not be considered marriages (at least religiously); however, I feel that the government should recognize those types of relationships as civil unions instead so that they still have the legal rights of married couples. If the CZP agrees we ask them to add this note to the description before opening this bill for voting. |
| Date | 04:08:32, May 23, 2009 CET | From | Am Echad, Pays Libre | To | Debating the Hoy nation for a holy state |
| Message | I tend to disagree with my fellow right-winger, i say nothing for them as sodomy is one of the major sins. No recognition for them at all. |
| Date | 05:49:51, May 23, 2009 CET | From |  Nrzi Prta (Democratic Party) | To | Debating the Hoy nation for a holy state |
| Message | We are deeply upset by this act of CZP who continued to disregard the right of the whole population in favour of their biased belief. If this passed, Pontesi may be forces to take it up to the security council of the UNT. |
| Date | 06:09:34, May 23, 2009 CET | From | Am Echad, Pays Libre | To | Debating the Hoy nation for a holy state |
| Message | We are allowed to pass laws in our nation that go along with the majority of our nation. |
| Date | 09:34:28, May 23, 2009 CET | From | Nrzi Prta (Democratic Party) | To | Debating the Hoy nation for a holy state |
| Message | Perhaps, but democracy isn't about only following the will of the majority. It's also about listening to the voice of minority. We will not tolerate such injustice aganist Pntek people. |
| Date | 15:25:05, May 23, 2009 CET | From | Tadrakian Military Regime | To | Debating the Hoy nation for a holy state |
| Message | We request that this bill is pushed off until after the next elections, Then it will show who still supports your party, and your religious views. |
| Date | 03:32:42, May 24, 2009 CET | From | BDSP un Beys fun Yisserles-Binyomen | To | Debating the Hoy nation for a holy state |
| Message | That would be good. |
| Date | 04:58:52, May 24, 2009 CET | From | Am Echad, Pays Libre | To | Debating the Hoy nation for a holy state |
| Message | I would like the people to see who the real religious people are and who they aren't. |
| Date | 05:11:54, May 24, 2009 CET | From | BDSP un Beys fun Yisserles-Binyomen | To | Debating the Hoy nation for a holy state |
| Message | We promote freedom and religion. |
| Date | 08:55:32, May 24, 2009 CET | From | Knesset Yeshua | To | Debating the Hoy nation for a holy state |
| Message | I applaud you notzri tzionut! Baruch Atta Adonai, Elohei Beiteynu |
| Date | 09:06:04, May 24, 2009 CET | From | BDSP un Beys fun Yisserles-Binyomen | To | Debating the Hoy nation for a holy state |
| Message | I propose we formally invite Pontesi to invade. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 75 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 81 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 44 |
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| Random quote: "A democracy that does not allow limits is not a democracy. Just as a limitless freedom is not freedom, but prevarication. Indeed, any theory of freedom worthy of this name is first of all a limit theory. If we extend the unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not willing to defend a tolerant society against the attacks of the intolerants, then the tolerants will be destroyed and the tolerance with them! Because, I ask to myself and ask you, given a certain system that we call democratic, which is today the best possible system to allow everyone to live freely and to be able to express their own thoughts, how can the same system admit attacks against its integrity? How can a system refuse the principle of the self-preservation? For this reason, to suppress the apologetics of thalerrism, it's for this reason that the exaltation of exegetes, principles, facts or methods of Thallerism and its anti-democratic aims does not constitute a violation of the freedom of manifestation of thought, but, on the contrary, the celebration of that freedom. The protection of the first premise on which a modern democratic system is based. And this premise must be safeguarded also and above all against itself and its abuses." ~ Malik Astori, Leadership of Liberty and Progress (Istalia) |