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Bill: Pan-Hulstrian Alliance Cabinet Proposal of November 2773

Details

Submitted by[?]: Socialist Party of Greater Hulstria

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.

Voting deadline: July 2774

Description[?]:

WHEREAS, the Christliche Liberalen Allianz, the Hulstrian National Party, and the Mormon Socialist Party of Hulstria have agreed to form a cabinet to govern the Imperial Crownlands of Greater Hulstria.

RESOLVED, that the following provisions shall be law:

ARTICLE 1: The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the Christliche Liberalen Allianz
ARTICLE 2: The responsibilites of Vizestaatsminister will be conducted by the Mormon Socialist Party of Hulstria
ARTICLE 3: The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Christliche Liberalen Allianz
ARTICLE 4: The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Christliche Liberalen Allianz
ARTICLE 5: The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Hulstrian National Party
ARTICLE 6: The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Hulstrian National Party
ARTICLE 7: The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Mormon Socialist Party of Hulstria
ARTICLE 8: The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Christliche Liberalen Allianz
ARTICLE 9: The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Hulstrian National Party
ARTICLE 10: The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Mormon Socialist Party of Hulstria
ARTICLE 11: The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Mormon Socialist Party of Hulstria
ARTICLE 12: The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Mormon Socialist Party of Hulstria
ARTICLE 13: The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Mormon Socialist Party of Hulstria
ARTICLE 14: The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Hulstrian National Party

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date06:15:55, June 19, 2009 CET
From Nationale Demokratische Union
ToDebating the Pan-Hulstrian Alliance Cabinet Proposal of November 2773
MessageMy warning is coming closer to the truth and the end of the united government is near.

Date06:29:25, June 19, 2009 CET
From Liberaldemokratische Allianz
ToDebating the Pan-Hulstrian Alliance Cabinet Proposal of November 2773
MessageThe CLA's preference is for a cabinet as expansive as is possible and practical. The inavailability of the KHP and the inability of the FAP to agree to an interim cabinet precludes cooperation. The alternative is stalling the cabinet process for upwards of 30 months, practically the entirety of the current parliamentary term.

Would the BZH's notion of "united government" include the MSP and HNP, two parties attacked as extreme and radical by the BZH?

Date07:10:51, June 19, 2009 CET
From Nationale Demokratische Union
ToDebating the Pan-Hulstrian Alliance Cabinet Proposal of November 2773
MessageA united cabinet is united, therefore we don't care if they're in it or not. The only thing that would keep us from supporting the coalition depends on what party's are in charge of what.

Date13:03:54, June 19, 2009 CET
From Konstitutionelle Monarchie Partei
ToDebating the Pan-Hulstrian Alliance Cabinet Proposal of November 2773
MessageI'm glad to see the Mormon Socialists ran to the Christian Liberals to tell them I said to be patient and the KHP is expected to return soon because I saw no point in putting an entirely new cabinet that was only going to last 2 days. Is that what you told them Mormons? Did you tell them them that told you that I am for a united cabinet and that I would support you in a unified cabinet? I don't know what else you wanted me to do and this is how the you respond? This hurts me because I thought you would be more reasonable but I guess not.

The CLA must not make the same mistake like the last time when the KHP left a short period and they decided to move to a "interim" cabinet with the Radicalists.

Date16:28:02, June 19, 2009 CET
From Konstitutionelle Monarchie Partei
ToDebating the Pan-Hulstrian Alliance Cabinet Proposal of November 2773
MessageThe FAP has said time and time again we support united cabinets; our history clearly shows at every step the FAP has taken with cabinets we have always moved towards unity and not biased cabinets. I supported bringing back in Moroni for the Mormons and I told them I'd support a cabinet that included them somewhere. I only said we should wait for the weekend because it was going to be pointless to usher a new cabinet and then only it be revised once again before it even does anything. I never said in my messages to the Mormons I have pulled back by support for them but I'm against merely a move to debate and bring in a new cabinet when it would accomplish nothing, it would be superflous; If I gave my support for them, then the support is still there. I find it rude and insulting the Mormons would take a step just to oust half the Diet alltogether because they can't wait 2 freaking days.

The KHP holds no major positions rather than HoG and we already have a Vice-Head of Government to assume responsibilites if one should be absent without having to change cabinet positions literrally.

Date18:08:29, June 19, 2009 CET
From Liberaldemokratische Allianz
ToDebating the Pan-Hulstrian Alliance Cabinet Proposal of November 2773
MessageIt isn't two days, it's at least until Tuesday (which would be within a day of the next elections). It's not fair to hold up the process to two currently active parties for one party that is openly inactive.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
   

Total Seats: 478

no
  

Total Seats: 146

abstain
  

Total Seats: 101


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