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Bill: 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics.
Details
Submitted by[?]: Luthori Green Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2132
Description[?]:
For a progressive society. For a secular society. For a pluralistic society. For a learned society. For a just society. For a peaceful society. For a free society. For Luthori. For all of the above, vote for a LPA party. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning who can proceed with adoption; in case adoption is legal.
Old value:: Only heterosexual couples may adopt children.
Current: Everyone may adopt children.
Proposed: Everyone may adopt children.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The right to euthanasia.
Old value:: Euthanasia is illegal and considered murder.
Current: Euthanasia is allowed with consent from the patient and the treating doctor.
Proposed: Euthanasia is allowed with consent from the patient and the treating doctor.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The terms of extradition.
Old value:: Extradition to nations with capital punishment is not allowed, unless there are assurances that the death penalty will not be imposed.
Current: The law bars the government from extraditing anyone who is a citizen of the state.
Proposed: Extradition to nations with capital punishment or with cruel or inhumane treatment of suspects and convicts is not allowed.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Firefighting services.
Old value:: The government competitively subcontracts firefighting services.
Current: Fire prevention and management is left to the local governments.
Proposed: There is a national fire department, funded by the government.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Health care policy.
Old value:: There is a public health care system, but private clinics are allowed.
Current: There is a free public health care system and a small number of private clinics, which are heavily regulated to ensure they treat their patients well and provide good care.
Proposed: There is a free public health care system and a small number of private clinics, which are heavily regulated to ensure they treat their patients well and provide good care.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change Higher education institutions.
Old value:: The government leaves the development and funding of vocational schools and colleges up to local governments.
Current: The government maintains a system of universities, vocational schools, and colleges nationwide.
Proposed: The government maintains a system of universities, vocational schools, and colleges nationwide.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change The regulation of higher education.
Old value:: The government allows public and private higher education institutions to coexist with self-regulation for those that are private.
Current: The government allows private higher education but regulates it to meet nationally set standards.
Proposed: The government allows private higher education but regulates it to meet nationally set standards.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change Military stance on homosexuality.
Old value:: Open homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
Current: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Proposed: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Article 9
Proposal[?] to change Government regulation of hunting.
Old value:: Hunting and fishing activities are restricted to designated areas and periods.
Current: Hunting and fishing is not regulated.
Proposed: Private hunting and fishing practices are banned.
Article 10
Proposal[?] to change Policy concerning industrial hemp.
Old value:: Industrial hemp regulations are left up to local governments.
Current: There are no regulations on industrial hemp.
Proposed: Only regulated agribusinesses may produce industrial hemp.
Article 11
Proposal[?] to change Nation's policy with regards to an intelligence agency.
Old value:: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Current: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Proposed: The nation has an intelligence agency, but it is limited to counter-intelligence and surveillance of other countries.
Article 12
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards the funding of libraries.
Old value:: Funding and operation of libraries is left entirely to local governments.
Current: Funding and operation of libraries is left entirely to local governments.
Proposed: The national government controls a vast and comprehensive system of public libraries.
Article 13
Proposal[?] to change Government policy toward marriage.
Old value:: Civil marriages are defined by local governments.
Current: The government allows all consenting adults to obtain civil marriage contracts.
Proposed: The government allows all consenting adults to obtain civil marriage contracts.
Article 14
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on the separation of the police and the military.
Old value:: A civilian police force is in place, backed up by the military.
Current: A civilian police force is in place and the military is not allowed to play any part in it.
Proposed: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Article 15
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: All adults upon completion of schooling can be required in times of war to serve a term in the military.
Current: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Proposed: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve a term of civilian national service.
Article 16
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on minimum wage regulation.
Old value:: There is no provision for a minimum wage.
Current: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a single full time worker on it can adequately subsist.
Proposed: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a full time worker on it can support a family of four without falling under the poverty line.
Article 17
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of nuclear weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in warfare for any reason.
Current: The nation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in warfare for any reason.
Proposed: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Article 18
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy on public nudity.
Old value:: Public nudity is illegal and prosecuted as a civil offence.
Current: There are no laws with regards to public nudity, it is allowed.
Proposed: Public nudity is illegal, but private nudist colonies and beaches are permitted.
Article 19
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning organ donations.
Old value:: Organ donations are only legal with personal consent, next-of-kin may override personal consent.
Current: Organ donations are only legal with personal consent, next-of-kin may override personal consent.
Proposed: Organ donations are legal with personal consent.
Article 20
Proposal[?] to change The distribution, purchasing and possession of material depicting pornographic acts.
Old value:: All forms of pornography are illegal.
Current: All forms of pornography are legal for everyone.
Proposed: Pornography depicting consenting adults is legal for adults.
Article 21
Proposal[?] to change Education in prisons.
Old value:: Prisoners are not given any form of education.
Current: An education plan for prisoners is provided to improve rehabilitation.
Proposed: An education plan for prisoners is provided to improve rehabilitation.
Article 22
Proposal[?] to change Prison policy concerning prisoner labor.
Old value:: Able-bodied prisoners have to work during the day.
Current: Prisoners can do certain jobs in prison, voluntarily, for a small wage.
Proposed: Prisoners can do certain jobs in prison, voluntarily, for a small wage.
Article 23
Proposal[?] to change The education system.
Old value:: There is a free public education system alongside private schools.
Current: Education is private, but the government issues vouchers to pay for the schooling of disadvantaged children.
Proposed: There is a free public education system and a small number of private schools, which are heavily regulated to ensure they teach adequate skills and information.
Article 24
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on sexual relations.
Old value:: Heterosexual relationships only are legal for consenting adults.
Current: Sexual relations of all types are legal for consenting adults.
Proposed: Sexual relations of all types are legal for consenting adults.
Article 25
Proposal[?] to change Waste disposal responsibility.
Old value:: It is the responsibility of local governments to decide on waste disposal regulation.
Current: Waste disposal is left entirely to the private sector but is regulated.
Proposed: Government disposes special waste only.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 13:44:02, October 20, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | Long live the Rzeczpospolita! |
Date | 16:21:29, October 20, 2005 CET | From | Redneck Party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | No |
Date | 18:36:21, October 20, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | Indeed, long live the Rzeczpospolita! Down with these unpatriotic bills! |
Date | 02:56:13, October 21, 2005 CET | From | United Conservative Party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | No! Actually, this proposal could be evidence of mental instability. Could we have the doctors examine the rantings of CHEAT to see if he could be placed in an institution for the criminally insane? You know THAT makes sense. |
Date | 06:47:04, October 21, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | I am willing to discuss any further compromises with the Seosavists Republican Party, the Rzeczpospolita Party, and the Sol Alliance Party. |
Date | 12:55:12, October 21, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | DUP: This bill is unpatriotic? Which part? UCP: Mental instability, Boo says that is impossible, and as dwarf space hamsters go, he is very intelligent. Ranting? What about you. Doctors, fine, how about a tree surgeon. Institution for th criminally insane? If I tried to apply for the LMA, I'd be turned down. You know the UCP makes no sense. |
Date | 13:39:45, October 21, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | Which part is unpatriotic? The parts aimed at destroying our criminal justice, defence and education systems! |
Date | 14:07:13, October 21, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | Destroying? We are restoring them to their original glory. |
Date | 16:12:45, October 21, 2005 CET | From | Seosavists Republican party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | perfect. |
Date | 17:59:02, October 21, 2005 CET | From | Seosavists Republican party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | as in no compromises needed. |
Date | 01:57:50, October 23, 2005 CET | From | United Conservative Party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | This is a bill conceived by wanton terrorists -- that is, those who wish to destroy our fine institutions. The MUST be mad. Remove them from parliament! They are traitors! |
Date | 03:00:11, October 23, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | I wish to rebuild our fine instititutions, after they were destroyed by the member parties of the Luthori Moral Alliance. It is only madness to oppose it. Remove us from parliament, when your the traitors of the people? |
Date | 10:05:40, October 23, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | Edited: Remove us from parliament, when you're the traitors of the people? |
Date | 01:31:18, October 24, 2005 CET | From | United Conservative Party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | FEAT are terrorists, revolutionaries, anarchists and heathens. Even worse, they slander the true patriots and Christians who make Luthori the great place it is. They must be expelled from Luthori. I think we need a Bill to that end. |
Date | 03:14:26, October 24, 2005 CET | From | none | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | We are not terrorists, we condemn all acts of terror. We are not revolutionaries, we don't believe violence can enact change for the better. We are anarchists, but anarchism means "no ruler," not "no rules." That is why we believe the Rzeczpospolita King must be apolitical. We are not heathens, we are catholics. We don't slander. We have a problem with what UCP and DUP consider "true patriotism." We are part of the LPA, the party coalition dedicated to restoring Luthori to the great place it was. We are the fourth oldest party still active, a younger party can't expell us from our homeland. I think we need to explain that to the UCP. |
Date | 20:10:34, October 24, 2005 CET | From | Seosavists Republican party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | "From none" how did that happen? |
Date | 00:32:53, October 26, 2005 CET | From | United Conservative Party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | CHEATS out!! Tratitors, heathens, morally decadent sunversives. Supporters of sodomists. Destroyer of institutons and J-walkers. OUT! I say! OUT! |
Date | 06:04:00, October 26, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | Ditch prostitution, articles 2, 3, and 4, und you have our support! |
Date | 07:25:03, October 26, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | So far it is clear the votes are thus: For: SRP, RzP, FEAT Against: DUP, UCP, RnP Unknown: CPP, SAP I need at least one more party to sign on for this to pass, any takers? |
Date | 09:01:42, October 26, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | I'm sure CPP will vote against this because of articles 1, 2, 8, 13 and 24. |
Date | 09:42:56, October 26, 2005 CET | From | United Conservative Party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | CPP are almost certainly against. The Bill is a crock. It should be voted down. You know it makes sense |
Date | 12:23:10, October 26, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | Based on their recent voting SAP may be 'one of us'. |
Date | 19:00:46, October 26, 2005 CET | From | Seosavists Republican party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | Luthori has not yet perished so long as we shall live. What foreign aggression has seized, we'll take back with the sword. March, march, Poniatowski, from Geharon to Luthori, We shall follow you and Return to our people. We'll cross the desert, we'll cross the mountains, We shall ever be Luthorians, Kariparta has shown us the way — How to prevail. March, march, Poniatowski... As Wybicki crossed the desert And returned to Randamar After the Agathi invasion To redeem the country. March, march, Poniatowski... A father says to his Basia, As he spares not a tear: "Listen, now, can you hear our men Beating the kettle-drums?" March, march, Poniatowski... |
Date | 08:10:10, October 27, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | I would like to thank the RzP and SAP for their votes, and the SRP when he does vote. I am sure Luthori would also like to thank you. |
Date | 09:01:17, October 27, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | I'm surprised at SAP: their voting seems to be all over the place... |
Date | 09:20:09, October 27, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | Not all parties have firm ideologies at their inception. |
Date | 14:04:57, October 27, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | I'm shocked at the RzP voting down our nuclear deterrent. That is a disgrace! |
Date | 14:06:22, October 27, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | Queers in the army as well as free from punishment, all prisoners unpunished: this is a national disaster! |
Date | 14:21:42, October 27, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | I think Nukes are weapons of last resort; a deterrent so that if we get nuked, our enemies are well aware that we will nuke them as well. |
Date | 14:26:04, October 27, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | If we get nuked it's too late! If if we can't use our weapons first WE WILL GET NUKED! |
Date | 14:30:20, October 27, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | Are we at war, and no one told us? |
Date | 14:33:33, October 27, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | No first use means forces can use superior conventional forces, biological or chemical weapons against us and we can do NOTHING! |
Date | 19:44:40, October 27, 2005 CET | From | Redneck Party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | Extemeism at it's finest. Everyone in favor of this is a disgrace |
Date | 21:08:25, October 27, 2005 CET | From | Seosavists Republican party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | "Extemeism at it's finest" It was but now we're changing it to policies that really make sense. |
Date | 22:37:36, October 27, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | My arse! No serious power has openly armed forces and only the USSR, with its massive army could afford the luxury of no first use. |
Date | 00:49:48, October 28, 2005 CET | From | United Conservative Party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | If our nuclear-armed enemies KNOW that we'll NEVER use nukes first ... then all they have to do is ... use them first! It must become the policy of this government to pre-emptively nuke all possible nuclear-armed enemies as soon as possible. You know it makes sense. |
Date | 02:04:42, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | DUP: Few countries have biological or chemical weapons, and we don't have openly armed forces. RnP: This isn't extremeism, it isn't even extremism. Everyone against this is a disgrace, and a very bad person. UCP: We have no enemies, unless we use your policy of nuking everyone just because they have nukes, then we will have many enemies. You know this bill makes sense. |
Date | 11:30:06, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | Openly QUEER armed forces. |
Date | 11:40:01, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | Yeah, and each of the services will be allowed three floats in the annual Oalapo Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras Parade. |
Date | 12:04:31, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | Death to queers, junkies, heathens and the nanny state! |
Date | 12:34:05, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the 2131 Election of Bob Robertson as Rzeczpospolita King heralds in the return to progressive politics. |
Message | Was the DUP taken over by the UCP? |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes |
Total Seats: 385 | ||||
no |
Total Seats: 365 | ||||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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