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Bill: Senatorial Sovereignty Act 2786

Details

Submitted by[?]: Coalition for National Unity [CNU]

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: April 2787

Description[?]:

An Act to make provision for the establishment of clear law regarding the Senate and it's supreme power and to remove the "Superiority" of the Head of State, to make provision for the protection of democracy and to ensure that the Senate is regarded as the "pivot" of legislative function in the Federal Republic.

This Act was written in the year Twenty Seven Hundred and Eighty Six and is proposed by Senator Andrew Bullen Senator for Fuwan, Deputy Leader of the Conservative and Morality Party.

Be it enacted by the President's most Excellent and Lawful approval, by and with the advice and consent of the Senators elected and their peers appointed, in this present sovereign Senate assembled, and by the authority of the same, as follows___

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date19:41:28, July 14, 2009 CET
From Sue's Corner
ToDebating the Senatorial Sovereignty Act 2786
MessageWhy not have some real change such as molding togetehr the head of state and head of government roles, rather than this rubbish. Changing the name of something will do little to repair the damage caused by the current government and some parties of this nation.

Lady Gaga

Date19:46:10, July 14, 2009 CET
From Coalition for National Unity [CNU]
ToDebating the Senatorial Sovereignty Act 2786
Message"We have proposed the unification of the Head of State and Head of Government countless times over the centuries, it has however, been knocked back. We are interested to know however, what 'damage' the VRP are refering to? This Act is intended to serve as a reminded of Senatorial power over Executive...and yet the VRP, who have been campaigning for that very cause...oppose it? *sighs* if only they could pick a direction."

Andrew Bullen (C: Fu)
Deputy Leader of the Conservative and Morality Party

Date19:46:37, July 14, 2009 CET
From Sue's Corner
ToDebating the Senatorial Sovereignty Act 2786
MessageGiven the current opposition this debate is really over. Over 1/3 of the senate have opposed this meaning less than 2/3 support is available.

Date19:50:09, July 14, 2009 CET
From Coalition for National Unity [CNU]
ToDebating the Senatorial Sovereignty Act 2786
Message"Yet again, they hide behind statistics, unable to debate their own views or provide reason. Tell us, do you actually have a position on the subject or not? You seem to be switching around on the matter an awful lot."

Andrew Bullen (C: Fu)
Deputy Leader of the Conservative and Morality Party

Date19:55:44, July 14, 2009 CET
From Sue's Corner
ToDebating the Senatorial Sovereignty Act 2786
MessageWe havent switched once. We support serious constituional change. We fail to understand how changing the name of the senate will mean suddenyl out of the blue senators will have a range of powers all because they;re now known as Soverign senators sitting in a Soverign Senate.

Yes, a huge big impovement for senatorial power. This is just one huge big cover up for the fact the CMP has no policy and doesn't take seriously the power of senators. We all know following recent debates that they would rather break the law than have senators get more power. Giving us senators a new name, is hardly going to enhance our powers in anyway. Explain to us how you think it will.

Lady Gaga

Date20:04:11, July 14, 2009 CET
From Coalition for National Unity [CNU]
ToDebating the Senatorial Sovereignty Act 2786
Messageooc: *Sovereign

IC:
"The VRP change continuously their stance. They support senators above the executive, now they don't. They're a christian party, then they promote nuclear weapons..it's just shift after shift. The CMP on the other hand, promote a balance between Senatorial Sovereignty and Supreme Presidential Authority, we have said it many times, it's called "Political Equilibrium". The purpose of this bill is to highlight to the Solentian people the value that this senate places in both parts. We do not believe that the Supreme President IS Supreme, thus we wish the title to be changed. We believe Senate to be Sovereign and vital- thus we wish to see that reflected to avoid confusion over our position on the matter.

The CMP's proposal on Supreme Presidential Authority offers a balance that is reflected again, in the more material changes of this act. The two acts together provide a "political compromise" that allows the democratically elected Supreme President to retain his/her executive function and power over their own cabinet whilst maintaining that the Senate can overrule them if those decisions turn out to be poor ones.

The Senate should be a check and balance to the Executive, we have always said that- it's in our policy statements on our website if you'd care to take a look. The VRP simply overlook the major issues and aren't seeing the big picture."

Andrew Bullen (C: Fu)
Deputy Leader of the Conservative and Morality Party


Date20:24:45, July 14, 2009 CET
From Sue's Corner
ToDebating the Senatorial Sovereignty Act 2786
MessageWe see a change of titles not powers.

Lady Gaga

Date20:26:00, July 14, 2009 CET
From Coalition for National Unity [CNU]
ToDebating the Senatorial Sovereignty Act 2786
Message"Titles, or image? Do not underestimate the power of words and image Senator. How the Solentian people view our institutions is vital to our maintainance of public support and trust."

Andrew Bullen (C: Fu)
Deputy Leader of the Conservative and Morality Party

Date20:30:47, July 14, 2009 CET
From Sue's Corner
ToDebating the Senatorial Sovereignty Act 2786
MessageThe Solentian people want to see real change not just change for the sake of change. You still haven't explained how the power of Senators would be enhanced?

Lady Gaga

Date22:15:42, July 14, 2009 CET
From Sue's Corner
ToDebating the Senatorial Sovereignty Act 2786
MessageCould you answer my previous question?

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Total Seats: 150

no
     

Total Seats: 275

abstain
 

Total Seats: 0


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