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Bill: Legislature Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Alliance of Social Democrats
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2789
Description[?]:
| An act to modify the legislature of the Holy Luthori Empire, the Holy Imperial Diet. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The length of a legislative and executive term, in months. Should be between 24 and 72.
Old value:: 48
Current: 60
Proposed: 36
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The total number of seats in the legislative assembly. Should be between 75 and 750.
Old value:: 200
Current: 650
Proposed: 250
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 09:43:14, July 17, 2009 CET | From | Alliance of Social Democrats | To | Debating the Legislature Act |
| Message | Any thoughts? I think that shorter terms would keep parties engaged in the process. I'll put this to vote in about 12 hours. |
| Date | 13:42:54, July 17, 2009 CET | From | Liberal Democratic Party of Luthori | To | Debating the Legislature Act |
| Message | LDP of Luthori Secretary to the Imperial Diet, the Rt Hon. Daniel Bowman: "Mr Speaker, We do not believe that there is any necessity whatsoever to increase the number of seats from its current status. Increasing bureaucracy does nothing except increase the cost of government and decrease its efficiency. It's counter-productive and something we have no intention of supporting. Similarly, elections every two years would be an expensive and pointless institution. The current laws have applied for a considerable amount of time and as far as I am aware no problems have arisen from them. We understand and appreciate the desire for our new colleagues to experience holding seats in the Imperial Diet and we welcome their conscientiousness, however we do not see that as good enough reason to support inefficient and expensive policies as proposed. Respectfully, I yield the floor." |
| Date | 02:36:38, July 18, 2009 CET | From | Alliance of Social Democrats | To | Debating the Legislature Act |
| Message | Theron Epson, Social Democratic Party Candidate for the Ministry of Internal Affairs: "To the legislature, In addressing the comments made by Mr. Bowman, we would like to offer some counter-points. For one, increasing the number of seats will only give the people of these states a larger say in the role of government, thus increasing citizen satisfaction with government. However, we believe that 750 seats may be too large, and therefore change the number in Article 1 to 250. Secondly, we contend strongly that a shorter period of time between elections will add to the efficiency of government and allow parties in the opposition to get a better feeling for the desires of the public. At this time, the ADS/SDP has no further comments on this matter." |
| Date | 05:01:09, July 18, 2009 CET | From | People's Party | To | Debating the Legislature Act |
| Message | More seats allows for better representation. Often parties receive less share of seats than they do of votes. |
| Date | 10:20:43, July 18, 2009 CET | From | Constitutionalist Imperial League (IA) | To | Debating the Legislature Act |
| Message | I will offer my first warning to the RUP. The Code of Address (http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=251468) must be abided by all members of Parliament. --His Grace, Duke John Rannigan, 5th Duke of Utagia, Imperial Seal-Bearer |
| Date | 02:45:21, July 19, 2009 CET | From | Luthori Republican Party | To | Debating the Legislature Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We feel that adding seats can not be done without first amending the budget to account for staffs and added space. Even then, we have tradition that would need strong reason to be amended. I yield. |
| Date | 03:40:16, July 19, 2009 CET | From | Alliance of Social Democrats | To | Debating the Legislature Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, By keeping the number of seats in the Diet at 200, we are cheating our People. One legislator represents 2 million people. Further, this is nothing more than an attempt by the coalition to stay in power and cheat democracy. If they would like to label this as bureaucratic, then they are calling the will of the people bureaucratic. We must show more respect for our People, and their vote. I yield. |
| Date | 09:47:55, July 19, 2009 CET | From | Constitutionalist Imperial League (IA) | To | Debating the Legislature Act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, We all have diffferent interpretations of what is best for Luthori and we can all debate those interpretations with respect, the Imperial Alliance is not trying to "cheat" anyone. The League believes in a small government and a small bureaucracy, therefore, it will vote nay. I yield. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 28 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 172 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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