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Bill: City Rename Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Heimdall Global Security - Darnussia HQ
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2799
Description[?]:
| This legislation formally recognized the creation of following cities in each province of Darnussia. Province - City Alkavon - Szawana Alkavon - Grel Alkavon - Tychnie Clenon - Dinsk Clenon - Brejan Clenon - Altrae Narikaton - Östermark Narikaton - Marcële Narikaton - Ansest Narikaton - Zovastinian Nihaton - Jasper Nihaton - Eris Nihaton - Irene Kozaria - Goodewood Kozaria - Holdana OOC: Mod, please create the following cities after this bill passed, thank you. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 07:26:44, August 03, 2009 CET | From | Surprise Party | To | Debating the City Rename Act |
| Message | Ok, first of all - SSR of Darnussian sounds stupid. Darnussian is the name of the people, not the name of the country (i.e., equivalent to the word "French" but not to "France") Darnussian SSR would work, as would SSR of Darnussia. Second - although the cities aren't listed formally in-game, a lot of them are already marked on the map on the wiki. http://particracy.wikia.com/wiki/Kozaria (has the map for both Kozaria and Alkavon) http://particracy.wikia.com/wiki/Clenon (has the map for both Clenon and Nihaton) http://particracy.wikia.com/wiki/Narikaton That said, the top four cities in each province, not already listed as cities (note - Kozaria already has two listed) Alkavon: Szawana, Grel, Tychnie (North Red Stad could be on the list too, but it's already "covered" by Red Stad, Kozaria) Kozaria: Goodewood, Holdana Clenon: Dinsk, Brejan, Altrae Nihaton: Jasper, Eris (Nihaton only has three major cities marked, in total - so I suppose there's room for another, there) Narikaton: Östermark, Marcële, Ansest |
| Date | 10:16:18, August 03, 2009 CET | From | Heimdall Global Security - Darnussia HQ | To | Debating the City Rename Act |
| Message | Well, the question is whether one person created them on Wiki or there is a secret discussion that passed this into a resolution somewhere that I can't find about them and the mod haven't been notify about it. I'm trying to clean up this country effectively here, but with all useless bill around and very little organization it's going to take time, so any info about this country that I don't know is greatly appreciated. Secondly, again my knowledge of this country's history is limited and I'm trying to work my way through it, but the fact that the former name is Darnussian Democratic Republic means I'm not gung-ho enough to make a change into Darnussia without anyone around to confirm that it is the correct name for the country first. |
| Date | 01:37:03, August 05, 2009 CET | From | Darnussian Nationalist Party | To | Debating the City Rename Act |
| Message | SP... why did you leave the place is a mess now..commies...everywhere! But no sorry i think they should keep names |
| Date | 02:05:17, August 05, 2009 CET | From |  Christian Democratic Party | To | Debating the City Rename Act |
| Message | Darnussian Democratic Republic would be like saying French Democratic Republic or Russian Democratic Republic. I dont see how you cant understand that. |
| Date | 02:07:38, August 05, 2009 CET | From | Surprise Party | To | Debating the City Rename Act |
| Message | I left because I thought the DJP could hold off Nova Terra rule - and if it couldn't, I could always find my way back. Whoops. If there's literally no other way, I may come back... |
| Date | 06:13:19, August 05, 2009 CET | From | Heimdall Global Security - Darnussia HQ | To | Debating the City Rename Act |
| Message | OOC: You are complaining because I make it more interesting. :P And to Yankhater, the fact is that I'm not sure if Darnussian is the country name or the people name. Happy now? |
| Date | 09:13:00, August 05, 2009 CET | From | Partidul Aristocraţie | To | Debating the City Rename Act |
| Message | OOC: Nah - Darnussia's a right-wing nation at heart, but I don't mind the short term upheaval. :D I think DNP will ultimately unseat you, he just has to get his visibility back up to do it and play it smart. As long as neither of you are doing permanent damage, I don't really have a dog in the fight. Of course, if you make seven Leninburghs, then I'll have to come back to St. Petersburgify the place again :D |
| Date | 11:59:29, August 05, 2009 CET | From | Heimdall Global Security - Darnussia HQ | To | Debating the City Rename Act |
| Message | Probably, this is just me trying to get a rise out of a nation, but I will defenitely enjoy my attempt to revive Darnussia while it last. DNP is busy with RL (Actually, I'm suppose to be too....) and with how the visibility is going right now, I'm pretty sure I will maintain majority without problem, unless you guys bloody come back that is. :P And no Lenin. :P Maybe something else, but I haven't got time to think about that yet. |
| Date | 02:57:18, August 07, 2009 CET | From | Loyalistische Partei | To | Debating the City Rename Act |
| Message | OOC: Most of the (actually all of the) Darnussia we and everyone knows has been either created by PRF, Me or Surprise Party. And no, there is no secret resolution to decide on the cities, as at the time they were not considered to be large enough to be added. Cities of Östermark, Narik, Marcële, Ansest and Torchvan have been used in RP before, (they are all in Narikaton), but I'm not sure about the other cities. I may have left the country, but I'm still writing stuff at the wiki, mainly on the History section. (Like the two RP civil wars who no-one before me had interest to collect together and write down.) It was however agreed by me and SP that the "Darnussians" article is not valid, and PRF (the original author of that) gave us blessing for it. The history section at the Darnussia-page is well written and should give you a great intake in the history of the country. Not the early years, as they are not included (but they are there in the incomplete "History of Darnussia" article that I'm currently working on), but it tells you all you want to know after the birth of Kingdom of Darnussia. We have plenty of stuff made up for the Kingdom (like how it was governed), but it is still just a mess in the discussion-pages of the Wiki and not written in real articles. I think there are tens of A4 pages of discussions over these things there if they would be printed out. But to make the "Darnussians" part more clear, I'll give you a short tutorial: DARNUSSIANS are the people living in Darnussia, a country named after their first king, Darntus I, who was a Narikatonite Warlord. It includes all three "ethnic brands" of Darnussians. MAINLAND DARNUSSIANS are those who before the unification of the country by Darntus lived on the mainland, They are commonly refered to just as "Darnussians". They speak Darnus, one of the two official languages. They are ethnically a minority, but their language is a majority language. NARIKATONITES or NARIKI are those who inhabitated the islands before the unification. They are ethnically the largest group, but not majority. Their language is Narik, which is a minority (not by much though). NARIKI and DARNUSSI JEWS are those Narikatonites and Darnussians who have Jewish descent on them. They were a large minority before the Deimore Incident, where the areas they inhabitated were destroyed and millions were killed. They speak either Narik or Darnus and Hebrew, mainly Narik as they lived on the islands. Ethnically though, there are not that much differences between the two larger groups, the Mainland Darnussians and Narikatonites. Then there is also this minority of Lusitânians, who once ruled the country. Who they were and what they wanted is not clear, as no-one speaks Portuguese we have no clue what was going on during their reign. I didin't want them to dissapear completely, so I continued to play on with them as a minority long after the portuguese players had disapeared. Now yes, it is true that there are no resolutions for most of the stuff in the wiki, but all players before you have agreed on with them. So if you feel like "nah, screw the stuff these people created before me", there is no rule or anything that could stop you. But really, you would be messing up with one of the most interesting countries in Terra. And the thing that makes it interesting is the fact that it is not ripped of from any real world country or culture, as it is almost completely original. We have been putting great amounts of creative value into this stuff, and it is still far from complete, even though pretty much all the stuff is written in some form somewhere in the Discussions of the Wiki. I really am not going to come to ruin your Socialist RP, as it is a fresh change. I just wish you would go with the city names we have created before, as they are part of the wiki articles and some of them are part of RP also. |
| Date | 19:15:21, August 07, 2009 CET | From | Heimdall Global Security - Darnussia HQ | To | Debating the City Rename Act |
| Message | Thank you for the info, much easier to understand here. :) Anyway, I can assure you that I have no intention of destroying your nation history or wiki, like you, I have spend hours creating that kind of thing in other nation before and I know how much I want to kill others when they blatantly disregard your work. Anyway, I made a liberty of adding two more cities in. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |
| yes | Total Seats: 132 | |
| no | Total Seats: 0 | |
| abstain | Total Seats: 68 |
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