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Bill: Public Service Reform Bill of 2797
Details
Submitted by[?]: People's Party - Republican Democrats
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2798
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Positive discrimination.
Old value:: No form of positive discrimination is permitted.
Current: The government does not regulate hiring policies.
Proposed: The government encourages positive discrimination and enforces it for government hiring.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The state's policy concerning religious clothing.
Old value:: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Current: Public officials are not allowed to wear religious symbols while exercising their duties.
Proposed: Public officials are not allowed to wear religious symbols while exercising their duties.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 09:05:32, August 06, 2009 CET | From | Social Justice Party | To | Debating the Public Service Reform Bill of 2797 |
| Message | Reverse discrimination is unacceptable for our nation. Few in the modern day discriminate on the basis of race. It is time to stop seeing race in terms of color but instead to see race in the grander term of the human race. Positive discrimination blocks this goal and is therefore unacceptable. Nonetheless, if a debate were started on this topic, the SJP would be interested. As for religious clothing, we are inclined to agree with the GPA since public officials represent the public and should not show any form of partisanship that is not related to their duties (and they probably shouldn't show political partisanship either). |
| Date | 12:13:20, August 06, 2009 CET | From | Green Party of Aldegar | To | Debating the Public Service Reform Bill of 2797 |
| Message | Agree with us??? I'm afraid I do not quite grasp what you mean. |
| Date | 13:34:43, August 06, 2009 CET | From | People's Party - Republican Democrats | To | Debating the Public Service Reform Bill of 2797 |
| Message | We suppose there was some confusion as to who made this proposal. The reasoning of the SJP in the case of religious clothing is sound, though. On positive discrimination (or affirmative action, as we would prefer to see it), we cannot agree with the SJP. The first point would be that their argument reduces the scope of of this proposed legislation to race, neglecting other existing reasons for which discrimination exists. Discrimination on the basis of race, sexuality and a variety of other reasons has been a feature of our society, as almost everywhere, for a long time, and while those practices have been reduced in the recent past, they are not eliminated and the effects are still felt. Affirmative action in the public service is an attempt to address the continuing inequalities in power relations to a certain extent. We are aware that it is not an ideal measure, and would hope that it is only necessary for a limited time, but the alternative is the wait-and-see approach which is based on the unrealistic expectation that wrongs will right themselves just like that. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 192 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 307 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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