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Bill: Health System Reform (RRP)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Rightful Radical Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2802
Description[?]:
| We, the Rightful Radical Party, hereby propose the following reform of Telamonian Law: |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the legality of abortions
Old value:: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters.
Current: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters.
Proposed: All abortions are illegal.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The right to euthanasia.
Old value:: Euthanasia is allowed with consent from the patient and the treating doctor.
Current: Euthanasia is allowed with consent from the patient and the treating doctor.
Proposed: Euthanasia is illegal and considered murder.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The recreational drug policy.
Old value:: The use of cannabis is legal.
Current: All naturally occurring drugs are legal.
Proposed: Recreational drug use is forbidden.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:34:03, August 13, 2009 CET | From | Revolutionary Congress | To | Debating the Health System Reform (RRP) |
| Message | You had me until article 3. We need to legalize the use of Cannabis for recreational and other uses. |
| Date | 21:21:42, August 13, 2009 CET | From | Peoples Progressive Party | To | Debating the Health System Reform (RRP) |
| Message | Assuming of course the RRP has "conservative" values and beliefs, why do they advocate putting political bureaucrats in the way of a woman’s right to choose what she and a competent physician think is best for her life and body? Again, politics should not become yet another obstacle for doctors and patients to face with regards to the continuation of a suffering patients life. The RRP is enforcing their personal opinions and "morals" on the rest of the country. Recreational drug use is a personal choice for the people of Telamon to responsibly make on their own, just like choosing your religion for example. The government is not put in place to monitor the citizen’s life. |
| Date | 21:21:47, August 13, 2009 CET | From | Peoples Progressive Party | To | Debating the Health System Reform (RRP) |
| Message | Assuming of course the RRP has "conservative" values and beliefs, why do they advocate putting political bureaucrats in the way of a woman’s right to choose what she and a competent physician think is best for her life and body? Again, politics should not become yet another obstacle for doctors and patients to face with regards to the continuation of a suffering patients life. The RRP is enforcing their personal opinions and "morals" on the rest of the country. Recreational drug use is a personal choice for the people of Telamon to responsibly make on their own, just like choosing your religion for example. The government is not put in place to monitor the citizen’s life. |
| Date | 01:34:59, August 14, 2009 CET | From | Rightful Radical Party | To | Debating the Health System Reform (RRP) |
| Message | Of course, by all means, I strongly disagree with anything said by the PPP. The fetus is actually NOT the woman's body, it is in her body! She has no rights to go and kill someone on a street, so she has no rights to kill her child. Contraception is something that she can try if she doesn't want birth. And, I think that banning something is monitoring citizen's lives? Yes, of course... Drugs are something that DESTROY, I repeat DESTROY the human body, and it is no question that they are not worth banning. I pity you. We are not enforcing personal opinions, we are enforcing the opinions of our voters, whose number grows day by day. Stefan Barna RRP |
| Date | 16:17:44, August 14, 2009 CET | From | Peoples Progressive Party | To | Debating the Health System Reform (RRP) |
| Message | You see, I believe that by banning abortions as a personal choice for women this will in fact DESTROY, I repeat DESTROY, many womens lives. Rape, incest, what if the mothers life is in danger and see may die. Then who is responsible for her death? The RRP? These rare cases of rape, medical problems, and incest unfortunatly still happen, and the choice has to be theirs. Do we really want the women (and in most case the girls) of Telamon to flee to dark ally ways and face unsanitized tools to receive an abortion? I don't pity you, rather I pity the women you care so little about. As your stance on drugs are concerned, I agree that most drugs are dangerous to the body and I would not recommend inhaling anything other than oxygen or ingesting any chemicals. But like you I have an opinion, and unlike you I don't believe it is my place to restrict the personal choices of our citizens with regards to their body. We should focus on educating our teens about the harmful affects of drugs, as well as parents. But government is not in the business of monitoring peoples personal lives. |
| Date | 23:31:41, August 14, 2009 CET | From | Rightful Radical Party | To | Debating the Health System Reform (RRP) |
| Message | Yes, I agree that rape and incest are quite worrying. Those woman should be helped in any way, and receive the medical help they need to get their child. Of course, this should not happen, because we need to make our police as vigilant as we can, and our law as strict as we can to stop these cases. But, in most cases of the abortion, that is not the situation. I deeply realize that women are the dominant sex, and that they get the harder end of life, and it touches me right in the heart to see you (OOC: Btw, I don't know which official of your party is talking, sign your posts!) telling me that I don't care about women. Sir, I have a Ph. D. in chemistry and quite know what is going on about drugs. The problem is, nobody would want to take drugs if they know that they are bad for the human body and banned for manufacturing and taking. They all start by someone introducing it to them, seeing as they are not banned it is more possible, and before you know it, he will destroy his life as he knows it as there is no going back. Education is one thing we must take care of too, when we ban the usage of them, to stop even the smallest percent of drug addicts. They are also very dangerous to the society, and believe me, I don't want my son even seeing them, let alone talking to them. Stefan Barna RRP |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 152 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 348 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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