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Bill: Nuclear Hulstria Act of 2801
Details
Submitted by[?]: Konstitutionelle Monarchie Partei
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2802
Description[?]:
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The policy with respect to nuclear weaponry.
Old value:: The nation shall never develop, produce or store nuclear weaponry.
Current: The nation shall never develop, produce or store nuclear weaponry.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to develop, produce and store nuclear arms.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 10:00:23, August 14, 2009 CET | From |  Konstitutionelle Monarchie Partei | To | Debating the Nuclear Hulstria Act of 2801 |
| Message | In a world where more than 2/3rds of the nations develop, construct and store nuclear weapons, having Hulstria, the dominant nation on Dovani, being subjected to radical pacifist policy not only opens the door to risks but if ever Hulstria would be a conflict, which if you look at history we have not been immune to, puts us at a major disadvantage. Hulstria is not gaining anything from this policy; we have more regulations on the military than we have ever before in the past 250 years and it is simply not called for. I ask the Imperial Diet to come to their senses and vote to reverse this pacifist policy. |
| Date | 22:46:27, August 14, 2009 CET | From | Liberaldemokratische Allianz | To | Debating the Nuclear Hulstria Act of 2801 |
| Message | Neither do we gain anything from nuclear weapons. They are not effective tactical weapons, nor are they practical strategic devices. A potential hostile nation that possesses nuclear weaponry and is of a collective mind to utilize such weaponry would do so no matter the state of armament of the other nation. Likewise, nations that have nuclear stockpiles but as a matter of policy or practice will only use them in a second-strike capacity pose absolutely no nuclear threat to Hulstria. Nuclear weapons, then, fail to make Hulstria more secure; they will not dissuade a foe wholeheartedly committed to using nukes, nor will they have impact on a foe set on using their arsenal as a second-strike force. Hulstria is better served by using the money saved by eliminating nuclear weapons to develop new and more effective traditional weaponry. Conventional missiles, guns, planes, etc. are the tools that our military would be using on a day to day basis to defend Hulstria and protect its interests, not nuclear weapons. |
| Date | 08:44:21, August 15, 2009 CET | From | Liberaldemokratische Allianz | To | Debating the Nuclear Hulstria Act of 2801 |
| Message | And so nuclear policy will be changed by less than 39% of the Diet. This actually approaches the charge of "pass[ing] against the will of over 2/3rds of the Imperial Diet" that the Governor-General alleged in the original bill. |
| Date | 11:23:57, August 15, 2009 CET | From | Konstitutionelle Monarchie Partei | To | Debating the Nuclear Hulstria Act of 2801 |
| Message | Okay. Well, this is going to be change anyway so there isn't really much to this bill now. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 277 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 271 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 177 |
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